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Reality Stranger Than Fiction

Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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The ATF exposed

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  • Posted by Flootus5 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow, Years ago I read some Joseph Conrad with interest. Now you have piqued my interest again. But with caution....
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Judges elected with one vote because of no opposition are the worst. Citizens should remember that jury duty is a chance to vote on a law again. First at the ballot box and second in the jury box. Judge can't dictate a juror vote. If, for example it was an income tax evasion case auto matric Not Guilty. it's a fascist tax and I'm anti-fascist. Judge is a misnomer. The Jurry is the Judge. the judge is a referee. Read up on Fully Informed Jury . if the judge refuses to explain the law Not Guilty. Third way to vote is for men only until the existing draft law is put back into use. Don't enlist or do enlist for military service. Or get one of the easy student loans and get a deferment. for four years. I'm career military and anti draft. I don't believe in cannon fodder. If you are offered nothing then vote for nothing by not voting. lots of choices but those all require active participation. Nothing worse than a wasted vote or one that's cast when all the choices stink. That means you accept medocrity and through that end uip with police that are poorly trained and city officials who are practicing tro be God.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Same here. Speed Traps were common before the days of freeways and every town had them. Even after freeways. Interstate 40 from Arkansas heading East. Forrest City I think had radar vans with two or three chase cars. The major crime was driving without Arkansas plates. The police cars could only catch out of state plates the others were going to fast.The cops weren't paid well and they got fifty percent of the ticket. But police are what their public makes them.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    1st the new recruiting films for police are all paramilitary. Second the police are like the army and at some point you go along or are kicked out. Third, ask you police friends if they have been involved in civil asset forfeiture case and how much their department makes off of this? Ask them if they approve of CAF.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 3 months ago
    It's disgraceful. I don't get how they even get away with it. I imagine as an employer if I asked W-2 employees to do something illegal, I would be committing a crime. The story about the man they hired to break the law was horrible. Everyone who was involved in hiring and managing him who knew should be charged with the crime of hiring someone else to commit a crime.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I recommend a book titled "Left of Bang" by Patrick Van Horne and Jason A. Riley.

    The book describes the 'Combat Hunter' program developed for the Marines and Police, but utilizing Police interactions and working back and forth between the two separate organizations.

    It does a great deal to reveal the attitude and mind set training of today's Police.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Do you believe this to becoming the majority of police and police training or some sort of elite type police who are in the minority? The reason I ask is that I know a relatively large number of police who do not fit that scenario in the least They are located in California, Arizona, Texas and Florida. I do know a few who fit your description, but so far as I can see they are in the minority. There are some small towns who make their quotas with speed traps etc. but I've found them to be, so far, the great minority.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 3 months ago
    Not at all surprised...how else would idiots prove they are not idiots...mfg success...that's how.

    Sounds like a inferior version of Project Monarch.
    read: The Trans-formation of America by Cathy O'Brien
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've made it a point, no matter how close, to stay out of that country for at least thirty years. I have a morbid fear that once inside I will not be allowed back in the United States. Funny thought... Neither was my country allowed back in.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 3 months ago
    our government is suffering from excessive autonomy
    and we are the targets of their excess. -- j
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Cops are now in the business chocking up tickets, arrests, and making problems, not solving them. I have seen documentaries where police have adopted new management techniques, which require measurements. As a result, they are reviewed on the number of traffic tickets, number of arrests, number of convictions etc.

    I have also heard from cops that the older generation was trained to be "peace officers" and then they became professionalized in the 60 and 70s. This meant more training in the law and an emphasis on arresting people who violate some law instead of keeping the peace.
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  • Posted by GaryL 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Too bad doing that in NY would get you a felony and not just for a hand gun but any gun!
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have pointed out to the few police people I know that I would never tell my kids to call the police for help unless it was the last option, now days. That was not the case when I was growing up.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Try to buy a good used gun if you can. Just got a beautiful 357 used, didn't need to get it inked.
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  • Posted by GaryL 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes Herb, I heard Reagan make that speech! It goes along with this whole mis truth about back ground checks for all gun buyers. Most folks don't have a problem with the checks to keep the guns out of the wrong hands. What most fail to realize is along with the background check of your worthiness to have a gun the government now has all the info about the gun you now have, as in Registration! Who has it, what it is, serial number and where it lives. Go Figure.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I realize that now. I did like the Prokofiev march at the beginning of the show, though. But my point was that anyone who represented law enforcement when I was a youngster and well into young manhood was automatically given respect and for the most part acted in a serious and sober manner. Of course, what went on behind the scenes was not privy to the public so much as it is today.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 3 months ago
    Hello dbhalling,
    The ATF as presently known should not exist. It should be my favorite convenience store... :)
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Or as John Edward Galt Thomas put it. Reality of Fiction or Fiction of Reality? One is a book the othere a TV show.
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  • Posted by illucio 9 years, 3 months ago
    "La realidad supera a la ficción (reality surpasses fiction)"
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