Without RADAR would we have lost the Battle of Britain?

Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 6 months ago to Technology
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If so, would the allies have lost WW2?


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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. Germany is half the size of Texas and about 1 1/2 times the size of Britain. Even with its European conquests, it had most of two continents (Russian and the US) and an empire (Britain's offshore territories/allies) arrayed against it. It had a non-pacified interior (French/Dutch/Polish).

    In Asia, the Chinese hated the Japanese bitterly. Japan invading China was a true example of the Prince trying to rule 'in the face of the direct opposition of the people'; fleeing Chinese refugees stopped to build airstrips with their bare hands to provide the Allies with a means to strike back against their enemies.

    Wars are won by logistics. They can, however, be marvelously shortened by the correct application of technology.

    Jan
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  • Posted by Danno 9 years, 6 months ago
    Watch "WWII in Colour" on Netflix or Youtube. Let's not forget England had cracked the Enigma code with the help of the Poles.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 9 years, 6 months ago
    The "white man" had guns versus the Indian's bow and arrow. Just look how that turned out.

    Superior technology has always had an effect on who wins and who loses, in war. The advent of radar would, definitely, have had an effect.

    Imagine if our enemies had obtained nuclear technology, before us...you can well imagine how that would have turned out.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 6 months ago
    My imagination has conjured up the following scenario.
    What was once the USA would be filled with Caucasian goose-steppers. No other race would be allowed to survive here.
    There would be no Cold War. The Nazis would have nuked the Soviet Union big time by 1948.
    Japan would be carpet nuked before they could split the atom also.
    Red China would not be allowed to exist.
    The world would only have room for the "master race." Everyone else would be slaves or dead.
    The first man on the moon would arrive during 2001 and be killed on impact. By this date we would never have heard about it.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Radar was a great weapon. as was breaking the German code,. They were helpful, but not crucial. Germany's surrender, which came just before the Atomic Age commenced. It was because Germany simply ran out of resources, including manpower. They were developing super weapons faster than even the USA could keep up with them, but they no longer had the people or raw materials to implement them.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that Russia had more of a psychological effect on Japan rather than a military one when they decided to join the Allies. Also, Stalin recognized that if Russia wanted to be listed among the conquerors, and they could already see the defeat of Nippon coming, they'd better join up pronto.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 6 months ago
    First of all, "The Hut of the Baba Yaga" from Moussorgsky's "Pictures At an Exhibition" was a bit overly dramatic, wasn't it?
    Secondly, We would have won, no matter whether we had radar or not. It might have taken longer, but it took WW2 for the world to recognize that no country on earth could defeat us. Since then, we've thrown that ability Almost away. Not because of lack of resources, but because of lack of will.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago
    I think Hitler would have overwhelmed Britain for sure if the English didn't have radar. The USA couldn't have been much help to Britain. With enough time to complete the atom bomb, Hitler would have taken over Russia and threatened the USA. Would have been an interesting world. Probably controlled by Germany and Japan and perhaps the USA too
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 6 months ago
    On the other side of the world, we might have lost the war with Japan if our navy hadn't had the edge in radar. Without radar, the Japanese effort to resupply their Guadalcanal forces might have succeeded. Our radar was key to winning the nighttime gun battles between the competing cruiser forces.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Based on this documentary and another book I read it seems unlikely that battle of the Atlantic or the Battle of Britain could have been won by the allies.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is a common argument that without Russia the Allies could not have won. One of the questions I have is if the allies had not given Russian any aid or technology, would they have been able to hold out? Second if the allies had needed to fight Russian the allies airpower and radar would have overwhelmed them.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years, 6 months ago
    My father-in-law worked on the development of radar and once said it helped win the war.
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  • Posted by Lucky 9 years, 6 months ago
    That is a question too hard for me but here are a few asides.
    From Churchill's 'The Second World War'-
    When in Moscow in 1942, Stalin said he wanted to show Churchill's accompanying technical staff a recent invention and hoped there could be a trade in such.
    Churchill said, no trade, we will give you as an ally everything we have got, but then said except for anything which if captured would give the enemy an advantage. With hindsight the reader knows he was referring to radar.
    There are allies and there are allies, radar gave the US Navy an edge in several of the crucial Pacific battles.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 6 months ago
    There is a historic science fiction book, Glide Path by Arthur C Clarke, about the engineers developing radar during WWII. That's where I first learned something about how hard it was and how important it was.
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