From the not to distant past. "I have the right without explanation to take all of your rights without exception." That had to do with buying votes and the outcome was "Money Is Speech.": Courts said so and backed that up. Doesn't matter if it violates your rights or supposed rights to free, open, and honest elections.

The only step left to make that statement completely true is a court case with a friendly bought and paid for judge and a friendlier supreme court.

That last step is direct contributions to candidates or measures without regard to boundaries national or international.

It's already possible through PACs, SuperPACs, LLC non profits, and laundering tax dollars into campaign funds through Davis-Bacon pork deals with unions.

If you would like the cite go to politics category look for the frame reframe series I think it's 104 Interlude or go the final one and read the ending.

When the discussion came up half a year so ago I finally got the upper hand because the claim was not yet 'quite' true.

I also presented a solution to ensure it would not come true.

Sadly, nothing happened but your well meaning statement is not true. Not any more. but thanks for bringing it up and a thumbs up.

Go read it again. Using their argument against them is how I controlled the frame and that led me to investigating that whole system.

I'm in support of making this a Hot Category listing and in the daily digest. Too many don't bother with the side bar and miss a lot that way nor do they look under Hot and New up at the top. Especially those that ask the same questions when the answers are already posted.

this is not a throw away discussion group. And he archives are open to all.