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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Precisely. There is a little known research fact that automobile fatalities have tracked right along with fuel mileage standards hikes. Makes sense in the basic physics: in order to propel a given mass at a given velocity there must be a mathematically derived force. Add in the inefficiencies in the internal combustion engine and transmission systems and really all the auto manufacturers have control over is mass. So they make lighter vehicles which are less crash-resistant.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I forgot Asimov. I don't know how I could because I once wrote a term paper on him. See what happens in old age? HAL doesn't count because in the movie it didn't indicate anything about computers dominating the general masses as they do today. Rather the moon and space station gave one to believe that most progress was in transportation.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That was Azimov and Clarke, Heinlein and a few others. Not as a direct prediction but as a common ordinary everyday tool in the future although I,Robot The laws of robotics and 2001 a Space Odyssey would be my sources for such a prediction.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True. But it can also be way off. As a S.F. fan from the age of 10, I don't recall any stories that predicted the dominance of computers and robotics in the 21st century.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Try it look at the site one part says about the metal and the other part says about the protection of the invention....compare withe steel Thoritsu referred to as to cost of finished product and expected retail against return on investment... usual Also about other products.... ask about that.
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  • Posted by $ johnrobert2 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Says it's an LLC. Guess that means privately held and no plans to go public. Wonder if they would take inquiries from private individuals?
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They just have to learn how to distribute the weight.
    Had an old Beamer and a 240Z that were great in the snow...they were very light...because the center of gravity was low.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sand Bags over the rear axle. Then in good weather take them out. However too light is very bad considering traction is what makes a car move and thinking about rain ...I like 4W High Range especially for rain or ice. Second thought keep the sandbags and watch out four the suicidals in the roller skates.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 5 months ago
    Gotta watch that weight, what little is left must be right over the wheels.
    Will be watching the new all aluminum F-150, especially in the snow where weight counts the most.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    i had the same question. This going to result in more rollerskate death traps or will it withstand crash tests with 18 wheelers, cement trucks and your standard idiot drivers? I'm still liking 1.5 ton pickups and heavy duty Utility Vehicles along with my life is more important than roller skate drivers lives.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fiction has the interesting habit of becoming fact. Look at the technology in Startrek the Original Series.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You nee the kind like we had in the Army for the Demolition kits....used them fro the electic blasting caps...then there is the old Model T coil to soup up the zap power......some of Tesla's stuff....time to visit the old tried and true?
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Prof, I messed around with some very fat capacitors,
    a little while ago, alongside a pedal-powered generator.
    the capacitors leak down before you can use the power.
    it is distressing how fast. . ham radio capacitors in a
    tall stack also leak down rapidly -- in minutes. . then, I
    started messing around with lithium batteries. . no fires, yet! -- j
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    this should improve crash performance while reducing
    fuel consumption. . when it is introduced into a line of cars,
    they will probably go conservative until history is generated
    to give them confidence for even thinner gauge use. -- j
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  • Posted by walkabout 8 years, 5 months ago
    So how do we find Hank Bain???
    Bainite publically traded co. or LLC?
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  • Posted by minorwork 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True, I was thinking of the all carbon fiber exterior such as I saw that replaced the fiberglass exterior of SEVEN. SEVEN is an electric powered four place vehicle constructed to compete in the Progressive 100 mpg X Prize a couple of years ago. I wonder if the weight versus strength ration between the new steel is less than their carbon fiber epoxy hull. http://illuminatimotorworks.org/
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  • Posted by $ johnrobert2 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Damn but it looks complicated from the Wiki description. From what I can gather, the transformationals are dependent on a critical temperature gradient involving a specific, very tight upper temperature range and a tightly controlled quenching within a very narrow range. As one poster posited, what would happen if a copper based component were added to the melt and allowed to integrate to the interstices of the quenched metal? jbrenner, here's one for your class.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was not clear: If it did not reduce fuel consumption but did improve structure and hence safety, it would still be worth doing. The concern about fuel consumption is due to thinking that we have only a small amount of fossil fuels left or that the petrol is expensive. If fuel is abundant and inexpensive, then you could keep the weight the same and improve the structural integrity.

    No, this is not what is going to 'work' in the real world - you are spot on there. But it is still a good improvement.

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 5 months ago
    Seems like it is sort of good, but nothing earth shattering. Applied to 4130 steel, it is twice the strength of fully annealed 4130, but it is about the same strength as tempered 4130 (213ksi), with 14% vs 10% elongation.

    In addition, it is important to consider that in small sections (thin sheets) material properties can be greatly overstated relative to thick sections, because the defects are oriented in the direction of the processing. Low carbon steel wire can be 150ksi, with great elongation, but the same material in thick sections is ~50ksi.

    Seems promising, and not to be ignored, but not earth shattering. I would not invest my whole 401K in it.

    Link to Army Lab Test:
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...
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