Is a life a life or not, judge?

Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 5 months ago to Culture
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as a person who always wanted biological offspring,
who could afford them, who could raise them well,
I resent this heartily. -- j
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SOURCE URL: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/19/judge-rules-california-womans-embryos-must-be-destroyed-after-divorce-despite-her-argument-that-they-might-now-be-her-only-chance-at-pregnancy/


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  • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years, 5 months ago
    John, I agree with you that a life is a life, even at conception. Do you remember that Pope John Paul II was against all forms of assisted reproduction? The situation that you describe above was but one of his many reasons. I read what he said about it, and he had clearly predicted many of these moral quandaries. I don't agree with him, by the way.
    But my point is that once you have the ability to create these embryos outside the womb, these situations will arise. I feel very strongly that this woman does not have the right to force this man to become a father. In my opinion she should be held to the document she signed. She could have chosen to freeze her unfertilized eggs, and she would have preserved her "right" to procreate.
    You could argue that disposing of these frozen embryos will be murder, and I will probably agree with you, but I will still argue that doing it is the right thing.
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    • Posted by edweaver 8 years, 5 months ago
      Question, not agreeing or disagreeing, but since there is not a way at least that I am aware of to have a child outside the womb, would it not be a requirement that the embryo be accepted into the womb before it could be considered a life. My point is that there is no guarantee that it would be accepted, is there? I am being sincere in these questions. One can argue life at conception or life at the point a baby can survive outside the womb, but can it survive without being in a womb?

      Or I'll ask another question. If someone bombed a building that held embryos could they be charged with murder?? I don't know that answer.
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      • Posted by 8 years, 5 months ago
        I am also being sincere, and I believe that the life of the embryo
        is the predecessor of the life of the child, and the adult who can
        support him/herself follows. . bombing such a building
        should probably be "manslaughter." -- j
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  • Posted by broskjold22 8 years, 5 months ago
    This is an interesting case. +1

    Certainly, the judge is implying this is a potential and not an actual life. Here's why.

    If it was a child and the contract said that the child would be destroyed in the event of a divorce, we would deem the contract null and void. The life of the child is incontrovertibly his own, though the parent may dictate much of the child's proper action to a certain age.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 5 months ago
      yes. . the tricky part, besides life-at-conception, is the
      total dependence of human kids, for years. . they must
      hope that adults will sustain them, else, well ....... -- j
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