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Islam vs. Christianity

Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 7 months ago to Politics
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Is there really a big difference?

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword” (Matthew 10:34). Or they could re-tell the parable of conflict resolution, which Jesus ends this way: “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me” (Luke 19:27).

One of the big accomplishments of the United States was separation of Church and State or "ethical philosophy and political philosophy", unfortunately many christians and many environmentalists want to break that wall down.

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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago
    Christian, Zorastrianism, Sikhism, Bahai, and Druze are under represented by the Obama administration in allowing immigrants or refugees. That thread is up separately. 2.6% of the total admitted are non-muslim. One of the other refugee groups managed to snag 1 slot in five years.

    Which makes the US State Department and Side Deal Kerry and the Obama Administration's PC Pukes along with ISIS the biggest enemies of non-muslims
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Four threads postred. Islam vs Christian, Christian vs. Islam. Judaism on Violence, Obama quotes on Christianity and Islam.

    Christian, Zorastrianism, Sikhism, Bahai, and others are under represented by the Obama administration in allowing immigrants or refugees. That thread going up now.
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  • Posted by gaiagal 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you. I've learned more salient info about LDS in this thread than I have in years of knowing one LDS convert and having multiple visits (over 3 decades) from missionaries!
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    it was intentional...as in keep them there, there. At least that the humor I intended for the wordplay.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    we can pour a lot of gas on the fire by contrasting the first amendment
    with the InGodWeTrusts all over the architecture, coinage, etc.
    the founders apparently intended to avoid having the
    church of england take root here -- they preferred
    having God or a Deity or Providence available to the individual
    personally. . and I agree that it's better to view God as an
    individual decision rather than a church or state decision. -- j
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The broad brush does not apply....

    True, but stereotypes don't sprout out of nowhere, either (one of my Laws...)
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I said this once before. Religion is for people who are afraid of the dark. It serves a useful purpose but more useful for people who insist on living in darkness. God helps those who help themselves the rest go on welfare - of one kind or another.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But you do it openly, morally with full recognition of historical truths....no mysticism, no fairy tales ....nothing wrong with that line of thinking.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And your first sentence exploded with one simple quick visit via google.....the rest just sort of crumbles like year old Christmas Fruit Cake. Nice command of the language though works well in the fiction.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago
    As to the comment there is no connection between Islam, Christianity and for that matter Judaism all three are Abrahamic in genesis or derivation. The comparisons of similarities and differences are easy to find. There is enough connection to provide drinking water for Phoenix Arizona....
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have posted the beginnings of quotes form the Koran and the Bible with continuation site references on the subject of war and violence. Comments are from the articles. There is no doubt that both religions are volence prone to differing degrees and for differing reasons. Now instead of arguing you can go find the actual quotes and the comments for/against by the opponents.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Right on! It is just like the misunderstanding of "Spare the rod, spoil the child." This does not mean you should beat your children! The "rod" referred to is the word of God.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 9 years, 7 months ago
    Our founders were acclaimed Christians and, yet, they were able to create one of the most freedom loving documents known to man AND include a clause on the separation of church and state.

    Granted, "radical" Christians could take the Old Testament view and become a terror similar to today's Jihadists. However, there has been little proof of that happening and, indeed, just the opposite has been happening with the attacks upon Christian values by our own government.

    Christians may be our enemies, tomorrow, but today, they are our allies and we need to respect them as such, as we are going to need their help to fend off the Jihadists.

    The Christians I know defy "Political Correctness" and hold onto the belief that marriage should be between one man and one woman. They believe that you ARE the sex you were born with and while they may abhor abortions, many feel that you should have the choice, but that they should not have to pay for it. They believe in helping their fellow man, but only to the point of helping them to their feet, where they can then return to self sufficiency.

    Ayn Rand spoke of the "mystics" and I am, currently, in agreement with her opinion...being agnostic for most of my life. However, I refuse to alienate myself from Christians as, not only am I married to one, I also happen to agree with many of their better moral principles.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Is there a difference between separation of church and state as was mentioned in the anti-federalist papers - meaning allowing religion to have an official place within government - and not in the Constitution and the wording of the First Amendment banning establishment of a state religion - meaning a specific church as the national religion?

    the other arguments are getting a bit dull so there's a new one to create some new sparks or should i just pour gas?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Score one more for literacy and creativity I'm thinking sometimes in Spanish. Guapagaia.and now you are bi-lingual. I picked on Terra or Terran as the way of slamming the PC crowd. PerSON is not the way to neuter and therefore marginalize a huMAN being. But like the Declaration of Independence Period they are not known for their literacy in alliteration nor in punctuation.
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  • Posted by illucio 9 years, 7 months ago
    Religion is Control. The most ludacris enterprise there ever shall be, that produces nothing and obtains everything in return. God has nothing to do with religion, trust me.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 9 years, 7 months ago
    There is no equivalency moral or otherwise between Jehovah (or Yahweh as you may prefer) and Allah as there is no equivalency moral or otherwise between Jesus Christ and Mohamed. The biblical quotes from Jesus Christ above are both metaphors. The "sword" is his teachings/philosophy, which being at odds with existing thought and traditions, would bring division as the slice of a sword. To understand the "those enemies of mine" parable, you need to know in a broader sense who is Jesus Christ and what is meant by his going away and then coming back. Truth survives, false does not. That is, the king is representative of truth and righteousness, which are survival traits and lies and unrighteousness (those who hate the king) are death traits. A few lines ahead of the one quoted the "king" reiterates he is a harsh man meaning truth has no room for lies and will not tolerate such. An Objectivist may say reality has no room for unreality and will not tolerate "blank out". The phrase "bring them here and kill them in front of me" means bring your lies before my truth and end them now!
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 7 months ago
    Having No moral ethical philosophy to guide one in political pursuits ( and it's not relative) is like abandoning your mind so you won't be able to control the forces of nature within one's brain, therefore becoming just another parasitical humanoid within the Kakistocracy.
    Separation of church and state was to keep government out of the church. not the other way around. We can not have freedom with out virtue or what we call...self control, accountability, responsibility and mutuality with others.
    islam or more specifically, islamism; does not have mutuality with the rest of mankind and mankind can not possibly have mutuality with islamism.
    Never the twain shall meet. They are 180° opposed.

    The teachings of Jesus was not about controlling others but about controlling one's self.
    Giving those approaching a mind and a conscience some guide lines to be successful in consciousness.
    Most do not know that mankind did not achieve tentative self awareness until about 3 to 5000 years ago.
    Sadly...many today still haven't...most of which are in government and the churches...especially islam.
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