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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
    After seeing this, I am vehemently against Islam and Muslims, period. The radicals want to kill us; the peaceful ones want the radicals to kill us so they dont have to. I think we should STOP all so called refugees from entering the USA unless they add something to our society- like they are very intelligant entrepreneurs or bring something good to us. No more of the dregs of society being dumped on us who want to take us over and kill us.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 5 months ago
    It IS propaganda.
    It does have a massive amount of exaggeration, some unsupportable conclusions, and kernels of truth.
    Sure would be nice to see something with balance for a change.
    That won't be coming from either side of this, and those in the Dark Center apparently don't want rational thought to prevail since it would reduce their power and increase our liberty.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
      WE already get the other side of the argument in the nightly news. This film is most likely more true than not. I am done with Muslims and Islam. Its a stupid, violent, non tolerant religion. I dont want it to get a foothold here as it will destroy our nation.
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago
      Jed babbin, a former editor of mine wrote a book "In the Words of our enemies" which presented translated text from a variety of speeches given in mosques and other places around the world that spoke of islams intent, their goal, and how they intended to get there - end result 9-11 (hindsight). No one believed them because it was so outlandish.

      I agree that some of this may be propaganda engineered to fan the fire. Still, Mr. West is not an alarmist and is solidly in our, the American people's, corner. I'd rather be ready than asleep should the passive islamic invasion of Europe spread here (and it will).
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      • Posted by edweaver 8 years, 5 months ago
        I hear Jeb Babbin (I'm sure it is the same person) on our local talk radio show at least a couple times a month. He is a guest to the show. He brings credibility to many of the problems we face.
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    • Posted by conscious1978 8 years, 5 months ago
      From the sound of 'our' religious conservatives, another holy war is coming with both sides not too 'choosey' about their enemy. Supportable conclusions and our liberty will surely be some of the first casualties of the irrational group-think.
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      • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago
        Its a culture war more than a religious war. Self preservation is not irrational group-think. Hard to be rational after the BOOM.
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        • Posted by conscious1978 8 years, 5 months ago
          Many religious conservatives like to camouflage their "it's us (Christians) against them (Muslims)" perspective. However, it slips out when they fan the flames in reports of "the slaughter of Christians over there" vs. the brutal murder of innocent people. A person's beliefs don't make their murder more wrong. More than Christians are being murdered....

          If you read carefully, I am not arguing against effective, proper measures of self-defense. When 'we' point a gun at someone, we'd better have a good Reason. If 'we' pull the trigger, we should be damn sure they are our enemy. Simplistic, irrational group-think doesn't lend itself to the fact based, supportable evidence we need to make good decisions.
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          • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago
            That may be, I prefer the US Constitution vs draconian 7c theocratic lordship.

            I could care less what the next guy thinks 98% of the time except when that guy/girl has a greater than usual potential to scream allah akbar and go boom while I'm shopping, drinking coffee and writing my next novel, attending a concert, or any peaceful thing in my life that happens to take place in a crowd. An honor killing (muslim, as if I need to say it) took place less than 10 miles form my house.
            Yes, it is us against them. We have reason. Notice how CNN avoids the term honor killing in their article - thats the inherent danger.
            http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/15/a...
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 5 months ago
    Some sobering thoughts: roughly one third of Muslims across the globe have expressed sympathy with ISIS. Objectively, part of that is a longing to see an all-powerful caliphate, and Islam as the most powerful religious institution. However, I began to suspect another motive when I saw another poll that indicated one fourth of the world Buddhist faithful also sympathize with ISIS.

    What many Muslim and Buddhist adherents share is an inordinate hatred of Western civilization. Much of that anger stems from colonialist abuse, while part of it is a perception the Muslims have about the West serving evil by impeding what they see as the ultimate victory of Islam. Some of the Buddhist hostility (there's an oxymoron!) is distaste for Western materialism, while colonial days left a bad taste in their mouths as well.

    To quote Rhett Butler, "Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn!" This is all about living in the past and festering wounds for old abuses best left behind. Until the addicted victim class can get past their self pity and do something for themselves, I have no time nor wealth to spend on them.

    According to the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, 72% of the current wave of Middle Eastern refugees are men between the ages of 18 and 40. Those are draft dodgers, who don't want to become cannon fodder for one group or another, and I sympathize, but enabling their cowardice doesn't solve their problems, and damn sure only causes me headaches.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 5 months ago
    A thought occurred to me while I was offline doing something else.
    The foremost legacy remembered by history of Barrack Hussein Obama may very well be he being the principle villain behind turning the uniquely diverse cultures of Europe if not the entire Western World into a pile of vile Muslim medieval crap.
    Call me Islamophobic if you like. After all, even an allosaur can become frightened.
    That is why I pack a concealed pistol. Some day I may be forced to make a difference or at least go down fighting as an old dino should.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 8 years, 5 months ago
      You're not alone allosaur. I will wear the moniker "Islamaphobe" with pride. I see Islam in the same manner I see rattlesnakes, scorpions, and black widows. It's a healthy fear and I don't want them in my house.
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  • Posted by wmiranda 8 years, 5 months ago
    Wow, even if there is some manipulation in the film, the fact is the Islamist have two fronts. One a war front the other a subversive invasion through migration to countries with naive leaders. It is also obvious that the Islamist have a much more effective propaganda machine.
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  • Posted by wiggys 8 years, 5 months ago
    There is but one solution to the muslim problem.Destroy ALL of the oil production in the middle east and I mean ALL OF IT. That includes saudi arabia. If they do not have money they can't payoff the politicians of all of the countries around the world that are defying the populations of those countries.The plan is to take over the world and it will then return to the 7th century or earlier not that it will matter. Do you think 0 is not one of them think again. They can them get on their camels and return to the desert.
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    • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 5 months ago
      Frankly, I'd rather just abandon the Middle East (either including Israel or all except Israel) and let Europe and China try to deal with and/or fight the Arabs for oil. It would no longer be our problem, because we've got plenty of our own and so do Canada and Mexico. Japan can choose to buy from us or them. So can Taiwan.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago
        True. With the opening of the SW Texas oil fields and Alaska we have little need if any of importing anything nor does Mexico or Canada. In this case the pipeline from Canada to the Texas refineries would solidify our ability to keep North America oil as NA fuel.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 5 months ago
    Mr. Obama, I lay all this evil before your feet.
    Your actions created the vacuum that ISIS filled.
    But I think Obama knows this fully well.
    And I think the whole mess seen in that video brings a smile to the great liar's lips.
    When such a smile is expedient, that is.
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    • Posted by wmiranda 8 years, 5 months ago
      Perhaps BHO is engaged in a form of subversive jihad himself. This is the most dangerous part of his term as president, when he can make careless, reckless, decisions without worrying about his reelection. Hillary... she'll say she's muslim if it helps her get reelected.
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    • Posted by KCLiberty 8 years, 5 months ago
      What?? Created the vacuum? No.....we directly control them. We pay them (many are just mercenaries) and we arm them and bomb people for them. We have for a long time. Who do you think we helped take over Libya? The flags are always the same. No, this is on every American moron that voted for a Republican or a Democrat for the last 20 years.
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  • Posted by jetmec 8 years, 5 months ago
    I have been going to Germany for years, At one time your could leave your car unlocked and it would not be touched, Now it's like England the only way to feel safe is to pack a gun, A black at the job centre gets every thing as a white you get nothing! That's why I now live else where, I wish there was a real Gault's gulch so I could live there
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
      Yes !!! I wish there was a gulch too, but I am not so sure it could survive without some sort of super bomb that it pointed at the big countries as defense.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 5 months ago
    I have been mulling something over lately on this. Why would our leadership be opening the gates for this here? I hope I'm wrong but...who's to say that our leadership hasn't been directly threatened by this movement? Think about that. The Nazis, from what I understand, preemptively bribed French officials to allow for an easy invasion. Our officials are certainly open to bribery. But, in this case, it may be direct, private threats that are motivating this new openness. We all probably realize it's not beneath this intruder, right?
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 5 months ago
    One of the great mysteries in all of this is...Where are the feminists? They are openly welcoming cultures that treat women like animals, yet we hear nothing of women's rights. I can't f'ing believe it.
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 8 years, 5 months ago
    If one shined an UV light on Dear Leader's forehead, would "666" appear?
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago
      Add up the number of congressinals 435 plus 100 and the two in the whitehouuse 537 and the number of various other leaders of the pack it funnily enough comes close to that old bugaboo number 67 plus 66 or 133 more. Just about fit's perfect. Of course I left plenty of wriggle and computation room 9 supreme court the rest cabinet leaers, party leaders, etc. What struck me odd was it's a close fit if iyou include blue state governors...

      This is not a metaphor just a rough very rough calculation.
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