One bad apple...

Posted by sdesapio 11 years, 4 months ago to The Gulch: General
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From URBAN DICTIONARY ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph... )
Troll: One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

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Unfortunately, as the result of a single individual's downvoting madness yesterday ( http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/51... ), we were left with no choice but to immediately implement "Producers Only" voting in the Gulch.

In an attempt to bury member comments, a rogue troll was creating new accounts with the sole purpose of downvoting everyone taking part in the discussion... accept of course for the trolling accounts (EdvardHovanesian, AbdulRahmanKarimi, MertonDabney, IlanRosenberger, LouGranger, CaitlinOClery, JackieEly, LorenMuttoone, PatHaden, DaleTipton, ShelbyGarner). Thankfully, a few members flagged the discussion and alerted us to the suspicious activity. Our reactive attempts to mitigate the damage however were proving to be an exercise in futility - we would suspend one account, they would create another.

Because we had very little in place to stop and/or prevent further activity, the simplest, quickest and most effective solution was to "turn on" Producers only voting. Several months ago, as the result of another Gulch conversation, we had actually gone through the exercise of writing code that would accomplish this so the code was already in place, just not active. Last night, it was simply a matter of turning that code on.

This move to Producer only voting should in no way be interpreted as punishment of guest members. Most guest member activity is honorable, and valued, and we may reinstate guest voting in the future. Until we have mechanisms in place to more effectively combat this type of intrusion however, Producers only voting will remain in effect.

Scott

EDIT: 03-03-2014: Unless the voting privilege was explicitly revoked from your account, if you have 100+ points, you can now vote. Thanks to blarman for the suggestion ( http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/51... ) and of course jbaker for making it happen so quickly.


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  • Posted by fosterj717 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for maintaining the integrity of this site. It is a pleasure to engage in intellectual debate and not have to put up with idiots with other less honorable agendas.
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  • Posted by jrberts5 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I had attributed the actions of this individual to hate instead of fear. I would like to thank the administers for their work in limiting the offensiveness associated with this.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 11 years, 4 months ago
    Sorry to hear about the problem. Thanks for the explanation. If you need any testing assistance from 'the field' let me know.
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  • Posted by mminnick 11 years, 4 months ago
    I agree with your action completely. The Gulch is for the free exchange of ideas with respect for all ideas presented.
    The unfettered downgrading of comments and posts was being abused by one aor perhaps a few to the detriment of all.
    It is unfortunate that many good people have to have their access restricted. Perhaps in the future this will be set back to an open option, but it cannot be so now.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have seen 0 show up when a post first appeared on 2 other occasions, so there may be a bug in the code that rarely executes.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How did you get a 0 for this post? I've giving you back your point for excellent content.

    You are correct that it has happened in the past and probably will in the future because, as overman said, we think therefore we are a threat. I just don't remember anyone taking the time to create 10 accounts and be so prolific in the down votes. It would be interesting to see if it is the same person as on fb.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    it's happened several times since I've been on the site. Usually not all concentrated on one post but on certain gulchers. I think what made this unique was you guys immediately flagged and scott and jbaker responded quickly while the troll was still on the site, so there was a little battle going on. How annoying for someone's saturday evening!
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  • Posted by richrobinson 11 years, 4 months ago
    This does seem to be the first time guest voting was abused. Hope we can turn it back on at some point.
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  • Posted by overmanwarrior 11 years, 4 months ago
    When it comes to those types of people, I'm happy to debate and go back and forth. But when it comes to insults I have a zero tolerance policy. I don't give it until someone starts it, and that guy crossed the line in a big way.

    It is astonishing how angry people like that are about this Atlas movie. Their anger comes from a real fear over it. They pick on the production quality, the box office gross, and all of us in general because they fear the message of the films. That's the bottom line.

    In a world of free ideals if this movie were so bad, they wouldn't troll here trying to stop it. They are afraid of Atlas Shrugged, because they know that they are the villains in it.

    I wasn't even mean to that guy and he came out with a parade of insults. When we are involved with something that people like that fear so much, we should be proud. That doesn't mean they have the rights to ruin something we enjoy.

    Is the Gulch free? Should anybody be allowed to come here. After all, this is a movie promotion site. Well, the Gulch has become more than that, and we have to treat it the way we feel about it. We should be prepared to defend it the same as if it were in the real world.
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