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  • Posted by RonC 9 years, 7 months ago
    fundamentalism, or a set of strong beliefs, will always trump moderation, a mild set of parameters. This is because there is a spear point effect in the actions governed by fundamentals. Conversely, moderation is like a down pillow or warm milk. Comfortable and non offensive. Jesus admonished his followers to be either hot or cold for a thing, luke warm he would spew from his mouth.

    I argue PC, or moderation, has no chance against Islamic fundamentalism. PC has no spear point, only the comfort of being non offensive.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes it is - if something is false and people follow it, it is harmful. And christianity and Judaism are exactly the same thing as islam, it is just that the enlightenment happened in Europe and where the enlightenment happened christians had to moderate their point of view or they would not have any followers. Now the christian fundamentalists, like Ben Carson, want to turn the US into a christian theocracy.
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  • Posted by Lucky 9 years, 7 months ago

    A statement that all religion is false is not the same as saying all religion is harmful. Even that first statement is wrong, religions may have beliefs and practices that are unproven yet right as well as beneficial.
    The attempt to put Christianity and Judaism as morally equivalent to Islam is at the least poor thinking and shows little appreciation of history since the enlightenment.
    The territory labeled as the 'west bank' is Judea and Samaria, land with a long association with Jews.
    The theme purports to discuss fundamentalism and moderation in Islam but returns to the usual refusal to accept the existence of the state of Israel, the Jews should merge into a secular state, like Syria or Iraq maybe? It was tried in Iran and Turkey but Islam has taken over. Even the Lebanese, a nation typified by originality, entrepreneurial and literary skills now live under the thumb of Iranian sponsored fanatics.

    Consistency beats variety- quite wrong. consistency meaning fundamentalism often starts strong, but the innovative and flexible will adapt their actions to contain and remove it. That is, provided there is the will to survive. There are elements in the West that see humans as evil, harmful to the Earth, and support the death cults.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 7 months ago
    I agree with this part too, but it's the trickiest point in the entire excellent article. People need to give up the spirit world but keep their "Olive Tree", keep the feeling of connection to the their ancestors.
    "Only by rejecting the fundamentals of all religion—faith, revelation, and projection of a separate spirit world superior to ours—can we defend the secular, scientific society—the society of reason—against the encroaching darkness of which ISIS is but the harbinger."
    As you say, Christians and Jews have been able to keep theri religion and not apply the horrific stuff to modern life.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 7 months ago
    Yes. I agree with this completely.
    "When any person feels he has lost his way in life he asks himself if he has been true to the ideas he has accepted. Parents and teachers who themselves practice a highly compromised version of their religion, nevertheless, when they turn to teaching the young, typically go back to the basic texts. They teach the fundamentals but practice them in a moderate, highly compromised version."
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