"I think Galt's Gulch is a place we create in our own lives."

Harry Browne, "How I Found Freedom in An Unfree World" 1973. Another book that changed my life.

I'm hoping enough States agree to an Article V convention. The States, collectively, are the only entities powerful enough to bring the Feds to heel. BO would no more allow a peaceful secession than Putin is going to allow a non-Russian controlled Crimea.

I really don't think that war or revolution would be necessary if the states retain the right to secede. Now that Congress lacks the will do fulfill their mandate and continues to fund the illegal actions of the executive, the best option is to leave the dysfunctional organization. The problem is in getting the popular support for peaceful secession. With 17 trillion in debt, that’s about $45k per person for a state to pay off is liability to the federal govt. This debt is manageable, but the trend is going the wrong way and time is running out for this to be a good option.

Even in the revolutionary war, there was only about 40-45% popular support and no more than 3% of the population in active combat. The majority certainly did reap the benefits of the 'illegal' actions of the minority. History shows that this is how real changes come about in governments. The majority of today’s population are too ignorant of their rights, and are too irresponsible to do what is right.

Yes it is our role to teach the untaught. Keep up the good work.

Unfortunately, the truth your friend spoke has not been taught in our schools for several generations.

I deep in my soul want to agree with Churchill that "jaw jaw is better than war war" but I'm afraid that the time for talk is rapidly ending.

I hope you are wrong as well Herb. It's the reason I put this post up. I cannot understand why the human race always seems to backslide toward collectivism. Many people around the globe sing the praises of freedom and individual rights but few seem to achieve these goals. In America, too many people don't even seem interested anymore.

John Philpot Curran - "It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt."

I also like this one - "We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson

For me, Galt's Gulch began in 1792. We must work collectively to regain our individual rights ratified in the constitution. It is important we all adhere to the principles expressed in Atlas Shrugged or else we are lost.

I think Galt's Gulch is a place we create in our own lives. For me it started out as a fleeting thought now and then. Over time I acquired more skills and better self discipline. At this time I have managed to create my own little world that for the most part is oblivious to the moochers. I have to settle up on tax day like everyone else, and I always go to the poling place on election day. Who knows? Someday my vote may be for a winner. Beyond that, Washington and the Federal government doesn't bother me much here in Ohio. Taxes aren't so bad when you can figure out a way for someone to hand you the money to pay them with.

Is this paradise available to anyone? Yes! But you have to see it in your mind, believe it to be possible, work in that direction, and recognize it when the pieces come together. Can it be destroyed? Yes. By neglect, or by the envy and ill will of others. What is there that mankind and mooches cannot destroy?

A dear friend of mine taught me how to build this place. He had done so himself and in the 2008-09 financial collapse he told me he felt like he was on an island, completely oblivious to all of the financial disaster around him. He has passed away now. Instead of leaving me his fortune and property, he left me something far more valuable, his knowledge! With that a person can build their own Galt's gulch.

Since (in reality) there is no Galt's Gulch that control freaks and property thieves need to be kept out of, what is the point of this question?

At least until AS3 comes out!

But I would never "go Galt" in a gulch, and here's why:

http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/ShruginA...

Go to www.goinggaltinargentina.blogspot.com and send me an email.

I'd like to apply for a plot of land. How do I go about doing that?

And I actually shrugged 45 years ago.

Now I have a place for (at least a few) others to do the same.

And, hopefully, survive the chaos of the collapse.

Click on my name, read my posts, and perhaps you will learn more about me.

I have already shugged and have prepared a real life place for others to do the same.

Am I a hero?

That is not for me to say.

But it is my great desire to make it possible for others to save themselves by joining me.

I'm here in galtsgulchonline because I want to be a hero and live with other heroes and I'm willing to pitch in to help it become reality. Why are you on this site?