Exactly correct

I've always felt that these so-called moderates are part of the problem. They love to whine about how the radicals stole their religion, but that's all they do. As far as I'm concerned, if you're Muslim and you aren't out there hunting and killing the true infidels - the radicals that stole your religion - you are just as much the enemy as they are.

Anyone that things all Muslims are bad is a rabid collectivist.

Great video and response. Thanks for posting! Brings to mind the famous and true quote from Edmund Burke. When good people do nothing, evil triumphs.

You have the right to believe in any irrational su-
perstition you want. You do not have the right to
impose that superstition on others, or to commit
aggression, that is, to commit violent, unprovoked
acts on others in the name of that irrational su-
erstition. Sharia Law is one such aggression.

and the muslim terrorists have certainly declared their intentions to kill us

a sweeping generalization and twisted view of 1.6 Billion people... a small percentage of which are idiotic, barbarians.

I have patience. :)

Thanks in advance for your efforts.

It is a historical perspective that I have on this, blarman. I will try to get a detailed response when I have a bit of time...

Jan

I would love to. I have posted long entries on this before, but I cannot page back far enough to find them - it will probably take less time to recreate them.

It is busy at work right now, so it may be a while before I can get around to this.

Jan

Very interesting blarman! I did not know this.

Deflection.

If these things were concentrated to one area, one state, one country I would not see them as something endemic to islam. Since they happen across the globe on a regular basis, no matter what the government resides or level of prosperity I do blame islam for cultivating such a mindset. We are not in the 7c and people acting and people barbarously conducting themselves as if they are in the 7c or hankering to return to the 7c deserve no quarter.

You are twisting what I'm saying simply because you have an irrational view of a potentially very dangerous people. Further you have taken my stance, which is based on a long list of valid examples spanning many years and from many places, and twisted it to mean something it is not.

I have not said ALL islamic people are guilty of these things. I will say there is something fundamentally twisted in islam that bring about the types of lunatics that taint 1.2 billion people. This view of islam is not my construct, its the face that islam has presented almost daily for half a century. Tainted such, and potentially and willfully dangerous, they should not be welcomed here.

Good one. I do wonder when we are going to demand that the peaceful majority police their own ranks to help control the negative response they find objectionable.

Jan, I'd encourage you to revisit your history. Islam has been a violent ideology focused on conquer and enslavement since its inception. Mohammed himself slaughtered and enslaved whole cities, even after giving his word they would be spared if they surrendered.

And you might want to look into the Crusades a bit more. If it weren't for the Christians fighting back against the invasion of Islam into not only the Middle East but much of Europe, there would have been no enlightenment and no United States Constitution because there would have been no freedom of thought.

Further, I think it is important to independently consider action and doctrine. If someone proclaimed themselves an Objectivist but still insisted on forcing their neighbor to pay taxes to pay for their television bill, would we say that that person was an impostor or a true representative of Objectivism?

I reviewed the list you gave me and only 1 link has an address associated with it. Sites without physical addresses hold zero credibility with me.

One of the sites listed numerous passages that seem harmless and make Islam sound like a religion of peace. I have seen many of those before. The problem I still have and will struggle to change, is there are numerous passages that encourage believers to basically blend with the people of the countries they are living, in until they are in a position of power. At that time they are to convert everyone to Islam or kill them if they will not convert.

While I do not claim to be an expert in Islam I have read a portion of the Koran and have been in classes on it. Sending me links to web sites that I cannot find information on will do nothing to change my mind. I will only consider information credible if I can dig deeply into the organization to find who is really providing the info. And truthfully, based on what I have already learned, the only credible source will be a "new testament" version of the Koran that has all of the verses removed that speak of killing infidels. If you have a source for this, you may get my attention.

Not quite accurate.

Islam only take the pieces out of the Bible they like down to Abraham (that's about 75% of the book of Genesis). But they dispute the lineage of the birthright, believing that the birthright went to Ishmael instead of Isaac. Islam never, however, quotes any part of the Old Testament as scripture.

With regard to the New Testament, Islam does not believe it is scripture. They can't, for it proclaims Christ as the Messiah, while Islam holds that Christ was merely a great prophet.

The Qu-ran (and it's prophet, Mohammed) supercedes all.

Glad to hear it!

OK. Looks like we've addressed different issues of the same subject.

That is my understanding as well. I will not turn my back. Sad but it is in their written word so the distrust is of their own doing.

If he's declared his intention, I think you make a valid point that at that point action is justified.

The past is the past. In the here and now, the terrorists have made it perfectly clear what their goal is, establishing Islam as the ruling force of the world. By any means possible. As dictated in their "holy book" that includes any means necessary to make that happen. Now, not in the past.

They are allowed, even encouraged, by their "holy book" to lie to the infidels if it advances the cause of Islam.
If I know someone is a muslim, I will not trust them to tell me the truth nor deal with me honestly.

The MSM had an easy time demonizing the TeaParty and could put labels on it without fear as there was no national organization which had the power to refute the claims. Long term.
The RINOs have squelched the voices of the true conservatives as evidenced by their treatment of Cruz recently. Trump comes on the scene and loudly vocalizes what we have been thinking, while we go about our daily lives of supporting ourselves and our families, and with our taxes, the welfare class. Its no wonder Trump, Carson and Cruz are leading in the polls, they seem to be reading our minds.
Bearman, you are definitely not alone.

SO you give lwss than 10 examples and blame ALL Islamic believers. Give me a million examples and it is still less than 1% of the followers of Islam the majority of whom do NOT believe in those practices any longer. (Error in logic assuming a few examples can be extrapolated to the whole)

It is NOT the religion .... It IS the bastardization of the religion by some .... we should not blame the religion for the actions of the few.

I am not pointing out the failings of Christendom BUT am blaming the individuals responsible. Jim Jones was the problem NOT all Christians.