Really?
Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 2 months ago to Culture
1) Isn't this the US?
2) 5 May isn't even a holiday in Mexico - totally an American creation. 19 Sep is Mexican Independence Day.
2) 5 May isn't even a holiday in Mexico - totally an American creation. 19 Sep is Mexican Independence Day.
I think of the US as this beautiful place where I ride my bike to a lab and make circuits, with a crossing guard who waves and gives me the two-line weather forecast as I ride by. There's another part of the country where people are all fired up about people wearing the flag. I'm guessing that's not their only problem. I wish everyone who wants it could have boring Midwestern existence with no fighting over flags.
They only banned displaying the American Flag.
Since 5 May is on a Monday this year, I'd wear all kinds of patriotic gear on the Friday before, then all black on Monday.
Something like this http://www.f150forum.com/members/04f150f...
or these http://www.united-states-flag.com/pipade...
I would refuse to honor this ruling.
I feel that ALL kids (and all people) in this country should learn and exhibit proper respect for our flag. At the same time I would have those kids en masse ignore this ruling. If enough of them display the flag and refuse to follow this ruling then there is no way that it can be enforced.
inside out. up is down
Cinco de Mayo day is a festival holiday for mexican-americans. You really have a problem with that?
There are many cultural days celebrated around this country that came from other countries. We just don’t hear about them because the ethnic populations aren’t as large and the celebrations tend to stay regional. Take Saint Ubaldo Day in Jessup PA. It might not be a holiday that you have ever heard of, but for the largest concentration of Italian-Americans living in the US, it is a celebration they plan all year for.
Fifty percent of the students at that school were of Mexican heritage. Of course, the celebration would be big. It is rude not to allow the American-Mexican families to enjoy their holiday in peace.
How about next time, you don a Mexican flag and go join the fun...hmmm?
"The court also rejected a claim that the white students suffered discrimination because others who wore the colors of the Mexican flag were not required to change. There was a practical reason for the distinction, the court said. Only those wearing American flag shirts were targeted for violence."-LA Times
who was inciting the violence?
The White-American boys. They knew exactly what they were doing. It’s a Mexican-American holiday, period. Those with Mexican heritage are going to celebrate freely, or should be allowed to celebrate it. To show up waving or wearing your US “colors” is in a way saying. “Yeah, you are a Mexican, so don’t celebrate your holidays here.”
That’s why I brought up Saint Ubaldo’s Day. It’s HUGE in Italy, as well as here in the USA; it’s huge in Jessup PA where the largest concentration of Italian descendants live. Everybody wears the colors of the three saint teams, waving italian flags, participating in Italian customs. Nobody sneers at them and says "if you want to celebrate in my country as if you are Italian go back to Italy. This is the USA”
These boys didn’t pay for their lawyer and drag this nonsense through court on their own. Adults did. Adults that didn’t want to reasonably look at the pain and suffering caused by their sons for not letting AMERICANS with Mexican heritage celebrate their holiday in peace.
The boys were ask to remove or turn their shirts around because they were inciting violence.
What happened to the 1st Amendment? Or is that optional to you?
I don’t take 1st Amendment rights lightly. I don’t apply them to hormone-driven minors looking to be the king of the playground.
The school had a history of problems on Cinco de Mayo, racially-driven problems. Those students devalued the meaning of the flag by wearing it as warpaint. 1st amendment rights my arse.
This was a local issue, not a national concern or a constitutional issue. It was about controlling mayhem among adolescents.
They obviously suck at it. And we suck at decency and reasoning for “rubbernecking” our way through this wreck flying our patriot colors.
"I can't fault the (9th Circuit) for this," said Eugene Volokh, a UCLA law professor. "But, boy, this is a pretty sad commentary. Here we have a school saying it's too dangerous for students to wear an American flag to an American school."
Your right-- if you marginalize Americans, treating them like second-rate citizens because of their skin color, parents point of origin, their language, or their culture they often do become easy fodder for socialists.
But in the end: who’s fault is that?
I made a post about St David's Day. I celebrate it for my Welsh heritage on my father's side. I likewise wear orange on St Patrick's Day to celebrate my Irish heritage on my mother's side (her family was protestant). NEITHER interfere with my American heritage, why should it incite these "American kids with Mexican heritage"?
Because they are being taught that America is the bad guys, that we "Europeans" "stole" America from their ancestors (along with the space shuttle and Wal-marts and hospitals and factories, and superhighways and so on, I guess)
I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of the "American kids with Mexican heritage" at that school are 1st generation, or maybe even 0th generation "Americans". In the past that would be enough, but not now when they're being raised to have no respect for, and even hostility toward "their" country.
In the end, it's the fault of their parents and grandparents who wanted the unearned and snuck into America. In the end, it's the fault of the government and crooked businesses who wanted the easy votes and cheap labor.
It's NOT the fault of a handful of multi-generational American kids who have gotten fed up with drowning in Mexicanism in their own darned country.
http://sainturho.com/karttunen.htm
Americans have made it into a Mexican thing, but to Mexicans it's not a big deal except as an excuse to hold pro-Mexican and immigration rallies here in the US.
Puebla fell to Mexican forces on May 5, 1862.
I don't celebrate Cinco de Mayo... I celebrate Camerone Day, which commemorates April 30, 1863, when a handful of French Foreign Legionnaires humiliated thousands of... Mexican... troops, and prevented the lifting of the siege of Puebla, which soon fell to the French forces on May 17, another date I celebrate as noisily as possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_...
Hey, whoever... you may not like history, but it is what it is. May 5 is celebrated to commemorate the fall of Puebla in 1862.
What's ridiculous is that these administrators aren't worried about safety. They aren't even concerned about education! They just want the money that comes from the public education system and all the federal grants that go to education in "underprivileged" schools.
What I question is why they are making a school celebration out of a Communist holiday?
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4...
As long as the depiction is respectful it is OK.