The Crusades vs Islam

Posted by JCLanier 9 years, 5 months ago to History
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Given the current on-going discussion in the Gulch following the tragic events of the terrorist attacks in Paris I believe this educational video will shed light on a long standing concept concerning the Crusades and Islam.
http://youtu.be/I_To-cV94Bo


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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 5 months ago
    Islam is probably the biggest enemy of freedom in the world. Not Russia. And the muslims dont rise up to get rid of the violence, since violence seems to be an integral part of islam. Why people embrace Islam is a mystery to me.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that human nature is basically wicked, evil, and non intellectual. It takes work to overcome this stupidity, and not a lot of people are willing to engage in that work.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wonder what provides the fuel to keep it alive. It has so many followers. What is the attraction to it. On its face, it seems to me a stupid way of life to be avoided at all costs.
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 9 years, 5 months ago
    Meanwhile, in the USA, Bernie and Hillary refuse to even say "radical Islam." Would they have used the word "Nazi" in 1939?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 5 months ago
    From the Jihadists, to the Moors, to the Barbary Pirates, Islam has been a rampant infection to Western Civilization without a penicillin available to destroy it, once and for all. All the apologists for Islam come to nothing once you take the word "religion" away from it. No matter how many times I hear the protestations of how Islam is a peaceful religion, all I can say, just as the guy in the video -- Islam is a mystical philosophy based on violent coercion allowing for no co-existence with any other way of life. Based on that, those who perform jihad must be completely stamped out, and all those professing belief in Islam should be isolated and treated with suspicion. How much more proff does the West need? A personal beheading of one member of every family?
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  • Posted by blackswan 9 years, 5 months ago
    Notice that we make a BIG deal about slavery in America and Europe, that was eliminated in the 19th century, but you don't even hear a crazy street preacher talking about slavery in Islam, even though it's going on TODAY. Why's that?
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Religiously motivated wars, all religiously motivated wars, require apology. The rabidness of the Crusades is nothing to be proud of.
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  • Posted by wmiranda 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Obama has mentioned the crusades often as a way diverting the conversation from Islamic jihad.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's been called "spin" at least since Bawdy Bill used the Oval Office for intern servicing.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for bringing him into the picture since he actually was crucial in driving the Arab Islamic forces out of France (battle of Tours) and back into Islamic controlled Spain. You are right, we do not teach this given that for centuries the focus on progress and development within established nations did not include the backward and internally squabbling Arab/Islamic caliphates.
    Things change when you're not looking.
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  • Posted by $ johnrobert2 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It was Charles MARTEL. He was the grandfather of the founder of the Holy Roman Empire, Charlemagne
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  • Posted by 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have witnessed this too. Maybe it is a profound shortcoming of the Western world to "apologize" for their success. Why? I don't have a clear answer. My mind goes to Hollywood and the self righteous attitudes of many of those participating in this industry. Their bleeding hearts for the socialistic/collectivist attitudes they preach as if they must atone for their good fortune. As if they are ashamed of it. Is this too an example of self loathing?
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 5 months ago
    Good information in that video. I saw something very much like it relating to the growth and expansion of Judaism, Christianity, and islam that was also interesting.

    I do love how Westerners try to vilify the Crusades having little or no true knowledge about it.

    Charles Motel (Christianity) saved Europe for islamic conquest. We don't teach this, instead we create self loathing. Why?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...
    (I"m sure there is a better link than Wikipedia. This was just the top of my google search).
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  • Posted by 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good question. Putting the cart before the horse until the cart acquires its own volition. It is scary how history can be so distorted -like the truth.
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  • Posted by $ johnrobert2 9 years, 5 months ago
    I noted how the Muslims and the Progressive liberals use the same tactic: Flip the conversation. Instead of trying to learn what other people may try to tell them about their faults, they flip the conversation and become your accusers. Wonder who learned from whom?
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