Story of Your Enslavement
Posted by Abaco 12 years ago to Government
I first found this clip when I first heard its creator being interviewed. It was one of those exciting moments when somebody fleshes out something you have noticed but just couldn't fill in the blanks. He mentioned this clip. I went to it and have paid attention to Stefan ever since. The images in the video are ok, but the words are very effective. Unfortunately, this concept of nations being human farms explains a lot of actions by our own government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withering_a...
here's the link:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5009...
http://vimeo.com/64301886
But something tells me that isn't what you're referring to...
Anarchy, on the other hand, has tended to be the gateway to totalitarianism. "The Communist Manifesto" and "Mein Kampf" were both heavy anti-government screeds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2lCBJu2...
After extremely brief research I hate to put myself in either category. I think that rules are the only way to define morality, and things are always absolutely wrong or right, regardless of intention or consequence.
But I base my rules off of the consequences. The rules are designed so that when I reach a hard decision, I can use the rules to know what I should do. If the consequences of the rules don't result in what I consider good, then I need to revise my rules.
So over all I would be of the deontological side. You can't always know all the consequences of an action, so how can you determine the actions morality until after the fact?
I guess I was a bit brash in my original statement, obviously you have to be pragmatic when defining a system of morality. But it isn't the main consideration. The main considerations should be logical consistency and Universality.
And, I didn't get that particular message from this video - "our current system is screwed up because government exists". The premise I got was simply, "You are livestock and the government is the farmer." It makes perfect sense to me based on everything I've seen in my life. After paying attention to current events in light of all I've read and heard on this subject the past couple years I have come to the conclusion that if I'm anything it's a minarchist. How's that for a new label?! Government should secure borders, specify roads, maintain a military and not much else.
Anarchist, monkey, neocon...I don't care. If any of those came to me and said, "Your government treats you like livestock and that, throughout history, has been a pattern." I would have to agree with them. I'm staying with the message as opposed to evaluating the messenger.
I haven't heard Stefan's description of Karl Marx's life, but I was under the impression that Marx spent his entire life in poverty.
Fun fact: Communism, as it was described in its initial theories, was actually supposed to be a form of anarchy. Yet it ended up being totalitarianism in practice because most Communists spent a vast majority of their time criticizing the current system rather than trying to actually find or implement solutions to the social problems they were so fond of using to ridicule society and government. Karl Marx wrote three volumes of "Das Kapital," each of which was a massive tome over a thousand pages in length, all focused on analyzing and criticizing the economic system of the mid-1800s. That's over three-thousand pages of criticisms directed at the existing social order of the day. By contrast, "The Communist Manifesto," in which Karl Marx describes his theories for a potential alternative, is only a scant 45 pages in length, and contains only the most general outlines for a new social order. And when the Communists finally gained political power in Russia with the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, they came face-to-face with the fact that they had very little idea what they were actually fighting for, and didn't really know what they wanted to achieve. They had to confront the reality that the utopian society which they had imagined was never clearly explained in any of their writings, and so an ad-hoc system had to be cobbled together using the few vague and generic explanations they did have. The result was a slapstick, dysfunctional social order far more oppressive and controlling than the one they had just overthrown, and far more destructive.
The habit of criticizing without proposing solutions is a common human characteristic which we're all guilty of from time to time, but we should be extremely wary of those who want to tear down our existing society without telling us exactly what they're going to replace it with. High level theory is easier to write and more fun to read, but in the end, it is the low level implementation – that is, the place where the rubber meets the road, the nuts and bolts of how things are going to actually work – that really matters.
I've watched a few of Stefan Molyneux's videos and skimmed excerpts of his writings, and one thing he said which makes me totally distrust him is his claim that anarchists don't need to describe what their hypothetical, no-government society would actually look like or how it would function. This is the exact same mistake that the Communists made prior to their revolution, and I fear that if an Anarchist revolution were to occur, its results would be no different.
If an anarchist (which I'm not) comes up with an explanation why our current system is so screwed up, why not be able to agree with it as a premise? You or I don't have to agree with anarchism to see the point here. Right? This is a premise to an argument, if anything.
Interesting...
Speaking of Marx - have you ever heard Stefan's description of Marx's life? You should. If Stefan's correct Marx was a broke slob. Haha....
I found the words most interesting the video somewhat less but by any measure an interesting and worthwhile view.