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Don't want windows 10? Tough.

Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 6 months ago to Technology
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this is ominous big-brother stuff, don't you think? -- j
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 6 months ago
    To remove the annoying and obnoxiously intrusive reminders uninstall update KB3035583 on your system. The messages will go away after you reboot. When you see that update again in Windows Update right click and select hide. There is no need upgrade to the obnoxious and personally invasive windows 10 if you don't want to.
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I fixed one MSFT 'problem' by adding an additional hard drive to my desktop.

    I download ALL installable files to THAT drive into subdirectories labeled for the particular apps. Newer releases go where their older siblings went before and I run them from there and let the installs go wherever they want on the C:\ drive.

    Sort of makes for a backup drive for installables that might not be visible to worms, viruses, etc.
    It's worked well for years, and a DVD backup of That Drive becomes a living treasure.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 6 months ago
    I do not understand much about computers. I don't
    have an Internet computer at home. I use the ones
    at the library. From what somebody in these com-
    ments said, I understand that you can circument
    Microsoft by using Google, which is what I us-
    ally use. But I have long held the opinion that
    if you don't want the whole world (or at least ev-
    erybody in the United States) to see something,
    don't put it on the computer.
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  • Posted by NealS 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've got a few old computers laying around that probably have XP loaded. If they were a free upgrade I'd do just that and not even worry about the viruses. Have they named the viruses anything special that come from porn?
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 6 months ago
    Thanks, but I didn't like the Windows 8 GUI (NO to the freaking tiles and push to search). I am an organized person (I don't use search but once every six months and usually for someone else) and the tiles drive me nuts. Been a Windows admin since 95 so it's not exactly like I'm a newbie, but I really hate how Microsoft takes the "you'll do what we want or else" hardline on so many things. Yes, they partially brought back the menu with the 10 interface, but I want the tiles GONE on my desktop. All of them. And I really don't like the scroll-to-the-right to activate logout/etc. or to get to other functionality. Leave it on the Start/Windows button.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    While I do trust an OS to convert my keystrokes to 0s and 1s, I don't trust programs to determine where to store my data (within the file system) without giving me the option. Windows has done this more and more over time (likely partly in the interest of system stability and less complex OS programming.) Apple has always hidden most of its OS operations behind something they think is intuitive; I have rarely found it so. Apple has restricted users from upgrading their machines with other plug and play hardware while Microsoft has always given users that freedom; then MSFT gets raked over the coals when some of the hardware vendors can't create a stable driver for their hardware for the OS (the cause of many BSODs.) Apple wouldn't even let a customer plug a tablet in to another computer to transfer files; he had to email it and expose the data to the insecure cloud. I don't want a computer that is designed for a tv mentality customer who can't figure out how to connect a vcr; that is what Apple offers to me. I want to make the decisions about my computer (and my life) without the vendor (government) dictating what I can do with it for their convenience, after they have taken (stolen) my money.
    Neither MSFT or Apple are perfect vendors with perfect systems. Both have bugs (or features if you are in software sales;^).
    Govenment and Apple feel I can't be trusted to manage my own affairs.
    I don't consent to either.
    If Apple meets your needs, more power to you. Your needs are different from my needs.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    this is the stuff which I pay my brother-in-law to do.
    I will copy this to a file which I will show to him.
    this whole subject scares me. -- j
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  • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have recently added a second computer to the rig here, and
    could do just what you suggest. . I would rather have it
    look up diesel engines or glockenspiels instead, though,
    to prevent the intrusion of viruses and stuff which tends
    to accompany porn. -- j
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A bit of counterpoint...
    I decided to bite the bullet and go to MS10 after seeing the user-hostile interface of 8 and 8.1.
    It wasn't all that bad. Fairly robust and recovers from some of the stupid error situations that forced user gymnastics to recover from with older versions.

    But imnsho, virtually ALL of the MS APPS have flaws in them that used to be nice features in earlier generations.

    I was/am-still unable to figure out how to graph spreadsheet data in Excel... it was SO simple and easy many rev's ago. Such 'progress.'

    The IE replacement lost many of the nice features of IE 7 or 8 or so. Favorites are barely manageable, right-click to open a link on a new tab and the link opens but isn't displayed until you select it! Such a benefit/improvement? Beats me...

    And, for counter-counterpoint, when I got my last Android OS update on my Samsung, it conveniently 'forgot' virtually all of my stock-symbols I had tracked and weather locations I'd keyed in. And took an hour or two to download and install before not saving or recovering any such settings. Rocket scientist programming?

    So we switched to iPhones. Yep, many new user interface metaphors to learn, but SO Intuitive, right? Bullshit.

    One day I wanted to use the built-in calculator. But I wanted memory store and recall! Calculator had nothing visible to do that.

    I tapped all the places I could but could find NO reference or explanation of how to get to those features... Until my 15-year-old grandson showed me the Solution.... Turn the phone sideways and in landscape mode, the calculator switches to just about all the functions I was looking for.

    Now, I've been screwing around with computers since IBM-360/45 days in college around 1967, and I learned some of the DOS internals because I wanted to learn the why and how 'behind the curtain.'

    But any and all of you have a LONG WAY to go if you think you can convince me that there is ANYTHING INTUITIVE about holding the phone sideways in order to get M and MC functions.

    NOTHING intuitive about it. Never saw that before in any user interface, and sure as hell didn't see any clues, hints or directions on how to discover that 'feature.'

    I still have MS on my desktop and probably won't toss the iPhone, but life isn't as ginger-peachy with Apple products as ... pardon the expression... Believers would have you think.

    Happy 'computing,' all...
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  • Posted by Slytherin 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well the point of Apple is that you don't have to handle everything. It just works. There is so much to do in life. Why spend it making your computer work properly when the manufacturers should ensure that from the beginning?
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  • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ha! Yes, I suspect that there will be a threshold of tolerance...and then possibly another one, if/when we decide to divorce SchuyLab from Windows OS altogether.

    Have not reached it yet: still hoping that MS wakes up to the fact that business needs a steadfast produce that is not swayed by the latest trend.

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 6 months ago
    Yes it is...no matter what's behind it all.

    I understand that if you shut off windows updates, you'd be safe... which I did a long time ago because of all the problems the updates caused.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My last volume picks up on an earlier thread of a conspiracy between a software company and the government......unless it's an overworked idea. the lucrative income of course calls for a lot of protection, deaths, maimings and in the end.....well read the book....eventually.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    good reason. At some point...that will revert when waste baskets and chairs through the windows take their toll. Still a very good sound reason.
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  • Posted by a59430802sojourner 8 years, 6 months ago
    I have windows 7 and it sucks that came with my laptop. i bought it uses, and i unknowingly purchased it without the soft ware. As soon as i can find a used desktop that has XP, I'm going back to it. There are things i could do on XP that i can not do on 7. Therefore to me, i have been downgraded.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Mac's have always been superior. Unfortunately they had piss poor business management. That cost them. They were easy to outsell back then. We still recommended them for any graphics intensive work, The newspaper and the local printing shop used them. The rest of the south half of the county exempting the freebies they gave the schools used IBM Compatibles with never a dime going to IBM.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
    The other thing is constant backups and use a decent virus checker but not AVAST. It takes over your life and computer if you dare to consider not renewing Worse than MS...I went back in time to Webroot including their old window washer.

    With backups and that means the second you don't want to lose anything no matter what you can always to a high level format and start over from scratch.Linus, Firefox etc. Open office all manner of choices.

    The irksome part for me was with XP Couldn't run anything with it crying to call the office. Hard to do from the middle of the ocean. For that. When the mandatory monthlies did arrive it was a full day to get the machine working again. I left all kind of FU very much notes for MS to find. In the late eighties and nineties we told our customers never buy MS until it's at least three years old. It was on a big dot matrix fan fold banner on the wall right behind the cash register. When Vista came out I took one computer and dedicated to no net operation. No problems. The other one was a time waster so I let what happen happen and then went back to C Prompt deleting then began with Linux. I'm typing on a Win 7 the cure for Vista. IT has exactly the same flaws as it did when it first come out.Whatever they do it has nothing to do with customer service. My rate of infection is not at nil. I turned MS off and put in a reputable program. MS treated it as a virus. It was ...but a good one it smashed MS. etc etc etc
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  • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately, Open Office does not do the trick - I had trouble with the formatting of docs made in Open Office (some employees used it). Since all of our documentation (User Manual, etc) is in Word, we either have to keep it as our official word processing program or go to a ton of effort to convert 20 years of stuff over to Open Office (or another product).

    Jan
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 6 months ago
    I am in the process of installing Linux on my daughter's new laptop right now.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fortunately, Apache OpenOffice is free and doesn't have them. Google it.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is one of the reasons we need intellectual property reform. As it stands, a software vendor can demand you jump through any hoops he wants in order to use the product you paid them for. Digital "rights" management needs to be legal to circumvent whenever it stops you from doing things you're entitled to do.
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