Political experience? Dr. Ben responds.

Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 10 months ago to Politics
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our government was meant to hire the unexperienced,
to get real representation -- as I understand it -- and this man
could really help in that regard. . What Do You Think??? -- j
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SOURCE URL: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/05/carson-says-he-always-gets-this-one-question-so-on-facebook-he-decided-to-address-it-head-on/


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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 10 months ago
    Carson wants more gun control, and says he will escalate the war on drugs. Each of those is an absolute deal-killer for me.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago
      He is a Republican. Were he a Democrat I would say the same thing. Both are absolute deal killers for me. Right Wing of the Left or Left Wing of the Left. Big deal. Same Left.
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    • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 10 months ago
      Same for me, but add Deist, too. I don't trust people who look 'only to God' for the Ultimate Right Answers...

      I prefer people who Think. Trump is too un-atheistic for me, too, but he does seem to have successes and business management skill that resulted, at least in part, from Thinking.

      Obama certainly doesn't/didn't, and the Democrats speak with a united voice of Bigger, More-Intrusive Government (and Socialism as The Solution.) Just another cult.

      So, Socialism or Theocracy, AGAIN. I voted for Obama 1 to try to keep a Theocrat out of the WH. I voted against him the second time in an attempt to keep a socialist/economic-asshole out of the WH.
      Unfortunately, by that time, the American Masses preferred the theory of Tax The 1% Is The Solution.

      Very sad. I may have to write in John Galt next year..
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    • Posted by Maritimus 9 years, 10 months ago
      Is it true that Dr. Carson wants more gun control? I have not seen it in what I read of his writing.
      I think that his claim of no political experience is a response to widespread loathing of politicians as a class. Voters seem to crave for "non-politician politician". In my experience, you cannot spend a lifetime in a large organization, business or other without being exposed to a lot of politicking. There are differences, of course. But politics and politicking are part of human nature. Ask Socrates or Aristoteles.
      EDIT: Added voters craving sentence.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 10 months ago
    Hello johnpe1,
    If political experience is so great how did we get to this point? I say no thank you. Perhaps we could do better with a little less. Carson is right, our founders were not professional politicians... though it is clear some learned very quickly.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 10 months ago
    No one can defend Carson's lack of political experience better than Carson. People are beginning to think that the less politician in a candidate, the better he looks. (The better she looks also. Carly is no doubt superior than most of them on the stage.)
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    • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
      Carly certainly wasnt so good in front of the HP board, was she.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 10 months ago
        And the HP board consisted of....? Perhaps the same moochers as on James Taggarts board. I'm just sayin'...
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        • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 10 months ago
          Before or after the Compaq merger when the Packard family divested themselves of all their HP holdings in disgust? Before or after she had a private investigator illegally investigate and expose another Board member?

          I was there when it happened and if you think Carly is worth defending, I can give you some history and facts from the trenches about why I look at her with nothing but contempt. I would only vote for her if the only alternative were Ms. Cankles. She is a looter of James Taggart quality and position.
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          • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 10 months ago
            WHOA!
            None of this was known to me. Looks like you had lots of first-hand knowledge of Ms. Fiorina. Can you give me some sort of outline without going into deep detail. I can do that for myself. But I'd like just a short look-over to get into what you posted.
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            • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 10 months ago
              First, check out Lucent Technologies. Carly ran that outfit right before she jumped ship to head HP. When she took over they were one of the highest quality telecomm manufacturers in the business with a bright future. They nearly went bankrupt less than a year after her departure.

              Next, when Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard ran HP, they mandated that 12% of gross revenues go back into R&D. The company used to have deep roots in the university R&D departments all over southern California. They were the pioneers in nanotech before it became cool. Under Carly, R&D spending plummeted to less than 2% of revenues, devastating product development - the backbone and legacy of HP. The partnerships with university were terminated, and HP became a consumer electronics manufacturer. Ironically, at the same time Fiorina (a History major, not even an MBA or tech guru) re-branded HP as "HP Invent".

              She was the mastermind behind the HP-Compaq merger where she personally raked in $40+ million in bonuses, then Compaq CEO Michael Capellas raked in a cool $30 million, which less than two years later was written off on the books as over a $2 BILLION loss. And she personally pushed the merger despite opposition from the Board - led by Walter Hewlett. More than 2 in 3 HP employees opposed the deal. The deal passed with the slimmest of margins after Carly threatened a major bank/stockholder that HP would pull its holdings if they didn't support the deal. During the whole thing, Carly openly bragged that the deal (and the bonus) were going toward her political ambitions.

              She personally purchased two new top-of-the-line, Gulfstream corporate jets despite HP having one only a few years old. She was the only one allowed to use them and they were kept on standby for her. At the same time, she was laying off 15,000 employees because they were too expensive.

              That's just a few to start with.

              And not that I supported Barbara Boxer, but she absolutely destroyed Fiorina in their Senate race when she pointed these very same things out to the voting public.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 10 months ago
    The "science of government" (politics) is flawed. However, it's all about nasty and whom is best at making it stick, who can twist the narrative to their advantage and in essence, who can lie the best.

    Can an Honest inter-lectual (integrated) thinker with a fast healthy mind beat the best manipulator?
    Theo-electrically... he should.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
    I was ok with Ben Carson as a very thoughtful and considerate person, UNTIL all this religious zealotry came out. Now, I would NOT vote for him. I have no idea what his version of GOD would tell him to do that was completely irrational.

    Someone so caught up in Jesus stuff cant be trusted to be a rational person.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 10 months ago
      Did you actually read the response he gave in this article? Did you listen to his responses during the debates?

      You may not like his religious views, but this is a very rational and thoughtful person. I'd certainly take him over the more spur-of-the-moment Trump, the establishment Bush, or many of the other candidates. The only others that hold a candle to him are Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Bobby Jindal.
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      • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
        I didnt like his constant reference to GOD and the painting of him and jesus on the wall in his house. kind of weird. He attributes all good things only to GOD. He is thoughtful, as he would have to be in order to be a neurosurgeon. That part is good. He is too quiet and probably cant convince people in government to join with him. That bothers me a bit. Trump is an experienced judge of character and will pick good people and demand they perform even though the culture in washington is to take money and NOT perform. Ted Cruz is another religious zealot. Rand Paul would be good, but he will not be electable at this time.
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        • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago
          with people like Dr Carson, you need to run a simultaneous
          translator for the god statements. . it is a process of demurring
          and calm, quiet confidence when he gives credit to God.
          those who receive 67 honorary M.D. degrees need to
          have a way to show humility, else others will think him
          to be a haughty stuffed shirt. . don't you think? -- j
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          • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
            He is very talented, self confident, thoughtful,and a great surgeon. Probably a waste for him to be president. When I saw the painting of him next to Jesus on a wall in his house, it was a bit much. He is a real religious zealot who would rule I suspect as a modern day Jesus- IE as a socialist in many ways. Makes me nervous. Better than Hillary or sanders- absolutely. As a president I think trump would be a better
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            • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago
              I confronted my family pastor in a private meeting,
              years ago, by saying that I thought that Jesus was
              socialist and I did not like socialists. . since this pastor
              was himself a socialist, he started arguing for the social
              value of socialism. . we got nowhere.

              I was wrong, by the way. . Jesus -- according to reports --
              did the "give to caesar" thing and depended on personal
              choice for charity and support of family, church, etc.
              the point of view appears to be this::: take control
              of your life and be faithful to your brothers and sisters
              in humanity. . separate your finances from the government
              to the extent that you can, and manage your life by making
              good personal choices.

              that I agree with;;; let's do it!!! -- j
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              • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
                I think all "religions" have some really bad ideas and some really good ideas. I dont know whether its christianity that espouses this, but I like the idea of treating other people like you want to be treated by other people. Seems reasonable, but in my case its based on practicality, not because its written in some book a thousand years ago.
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                • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago
                  yes. . the inherent philosophies are mismashes of old wives' tales
                  and old husbands' tales blended with politics and fear of the
                  physiological unknown (banning pork, for example),, etc. . my take
                  is that Christianity is relatively good and sometimes
                  innocuous when the perpetrators stay away from the
                  intimidation and guilt stuff, focusing instead on the do-good stuff.
                  in the long run, we will all know if there's an afterlife,
                  for example;;; in the meantime, how about being responsible
                  for your actions??? . that, I can live with. -- j
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    • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago
      and yet, isn't he better than someone dead-set on destroying the u.s.??? -- j
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      • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
        I will vote for Trump #1 if he is nominated as Repub to go against the dangerous Hillary or Sanders. If Trump is not nominated, Hillary will win as president now that Biden dropped out. Sanders is too much of a wimp to actually win over Hillary. Carson would lose to Hillary- he is too calm and mild mannered to actually convince anyone of anything and compete in a presidential race. I really dont want to lend my hand to any of the religious zealots at this point.
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  • Posted by wmiranda 9 years, 10 months ago
    It would be awesome to be represented by competent and capable citizens. In my 12 presidency lifetime and since I started voting, I've always believed there should be term limits for all national level elected positions. Carson, Trump and Fiorina are successful as well as competent and therefore my first choice. Rubio, Cruz and Paul are my second choice, mainly because they seem to be outside of the political norm of Washington. Anyone else running for office on the Republican side would only get my vote if they actually got the nomination and simply to vote against someone like Hillary with a lifelong blind political ambition. I think even Air Force One could not handle all her baggage and she would say or do anything to gain political power.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 10 months ago
      You might want to do a little more research, then, on both Trump (four bankruptcies) and Fiorina (two failed CEO positions). I wouldn't vote for either. They're both great at marketing, but I wouldn't trust either one of them with my money.
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      • Posted by wmiranda 9 years, 10 months ago
        Both have been looked at many times and there is little of significance there. Lacking anything else, I would vote for either that turns out to be the nominee. The alternatives are less attractive, for we definitely need to explore other options than what we currently have.
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        • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 10 months ago
          What constitutes "of little significance" to one means a great deal to another. I take Trump's bankruptcies, his unapologetic use of eminent domain for his own benefit, and his views on taxes to place him in the lower echelon of candidates I would vote for. He talks big on the border and jobs (which two positions I agree with to some extent), but what I can see in his history is a great marketing campaign and lots of red ink.

          Fiorina has two major corporations she has headed and neither did well with her at the helm. See Lucent Technologies first, then HP and the disastrous Compaq merger. I worked for HP while she was there and I want no part of that woman or her policies.

          You are obviously encouraged to make your own decisions.
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    • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
      I think its time for Trump. He isnt a religious zealot, he is a better judge of character than the rest (had to be for success in business like he has had), and he speaks his mind (no political correctness). We need 4 years of this to break up the crony capitalistic "leaders" we have had lately.
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      • Posted by Rex_Little 9 years, 10 months ago
        One of the common criticisms you hear about Trump is that he lacks political experience. But think about it--POTUS is the CEO of the executive branch of the Federal government. Trump and Fiorina are the only candidates with experience as CEOs.
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        • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
          exactly. we need a good administrator, not an arrogant dictator
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          • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 10 months ago
            A good administrator will certainly be able to make government do more, and do it more efficiently.

            Which is exactly what MUST NOT happen. Government needs to do a lot less than it does. If the only way to make that so is to throw more monkey wrenches in the works, I'll throw them.

            I'd rather have Sanders as president than Trump.
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            • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 10 months ago
              Not necessarily. A good administrator in charge of a bloated corporation might well spin off subsidiaries and trim the company down to it's core competency.
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              • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 10 months ago
                Or he might do what Fiorina did to HP...

                (If she'd been smart she'd have kept HP's one money-making product -- printer cartridges -- and hived off everything else. Instead she tried to cure their ills by merging with Compaq.)
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                • Posted by TheRealBill 9 years, 10 months ago
                  Which just goes to show that even women can be out to be ahem "the biggest". From the inside I wound up calling it "Compaq convincing HP to spend it's money so Compaq could buy HP." When nearly all of the top management inside of one year are from the "purchased" company, you've got the terms reversed.

                  She got snookered because she wanted a big fat "we're number one in the PC business" on her resume. And look what is happening now.
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                  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 10 months ago
                    For what it's worth, it wasn't just HP. All the mainframe makers were collapsing then (indeed, Digital Equipment got swallowed by Compaq before the HP merger).

                    To this day, this series of collapses is my biggest source of doubt against trusting the marketplace. Mainframes (especially DEC's) were secure against hacking and viruses, and businesses that used them can be trusted with our personal data. The PC craze was built partly on discarding all that safety -- and we're all regretting it now. Maybe in another 50 years the marketplace will recreate the provable safety we had in 1970 -- thus reinventing the mainframe.

                    Don't mind me, I'm just a bitter, obsolete mainframe programmer.
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                    • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 10 months ago
                      The problem with mainframes was Moore's law. Because of the long lead time for design of a mainframe project by the time it hit the marketplace the PC's were competitive because the design cycle was so much shorter.

                      It's one of the reasons that the Space Shuttle carried laptops rather than upgrading the integrated computer system.
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                      • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 10 months ago
                        I was help-desk support for a mainframe with about 1,000 users. Most of them went to PCs because they didn't care about reliability -- what counted was "new features now!" This is a genuine failure of the market and made me question how one could go about preventing such losses. While it doesn't make me even consider command-economy solutions, it does make me curious about third alternatives such as subtle marketing strategies.
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            • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
              If Trump doesnt get nominated, I would go for Sanders to get the whole socialist thing over with. Hillary just will pander to the people who supported her, which certainly does not include ME.
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              • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 10 months ago
                So did electing Barack Obama get the whole race thing over with?
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                • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
                  I think Obama actually intensified issues between blacks and whites and also between christians and muslims. He is so arrogant and entitled that it turns whites against blacks. I find in myself a hitherto unknown feeling to just have nothing to do with the entitled black culture now. Too many problems with their expecations that are over the top.
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                  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 10 months ago
                    Like the use of excessive force by police, "entitlement culture" is a problem that affects a large majority of us, not just black people.
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                    • Posted by TheRealBill 9 years, 10 months ago
                      Yes, and it has for generations in and out of this country, with origins apparently in England. It is certainly not a racial thing and entirely a culture thing.

                      I'm not going to apologize to those who think all cultures have value or are equal. They don't, and they aren't. Multiculturalism is a key part of the destruction of society.

                      A good culture is to a society what good topsoil is to a country's food supply.
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                      • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 10 months ago
                        Yes and no. A culture that encourages self-reliance and respect for the rights of others certainly deserves preference over one that does not. But if the difference between two cultures is merely about matters of taste other than morals, then I'm all for letting them flourish equally.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 9 years, 10 months ago
    The President doesn't have to be a politician...there are already plenty of those in Washington. What a President needs to be is a leader who can get those politicians to come together and follow him.
    Dr. Carson may not have all the attributes required of the job, but I'll assume that he will learn quickly. His obvious intelligence, patience and years of wisdom should more than offset any political experience that may be lacking.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 9 years, 10 months ago
    Is that strictly accurate? Hadn't some of those sign-
    ers been local legislators?
    ---Still, I don't think experience is all. I don't think it
    is better to marry a prostitute than a virgin.
    --Experience at doing what? Passing more laws
    that violate the rights of the people?
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