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DOJ: No Criminal Charges against IRS’s Lois Lerner

Posted by robgambrill 5 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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Nobody is going to be held accountable. From the article...

:“Our investigation uncovered substantial evidence of mismanagement, poor judgment and institutional inertia, leading to the belief by many tax-exempt applicants that the IRS targeted them based on their political viewpoints ... But poor management is not a crime..."
SOURCE URL: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/23/doj-no-criminal-charges-irss-lois-lerner/


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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 5 years, 3 months ago
    The entire government needs a house cleaning and reduction in size and power, or the corruption will simply continue.
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    • Posted by edweaver 5 years, 3 months ago
      Yes I'm thinking we need a mulligan. What started out so well for the first hundred years or so has outgrown the ability to contain itself. It's spinning & spinning & spinning, out of control. The only thing stopping it is a complete and total crash. I hope we get a do over, but fear what will happen when it fails. :(
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 5 years, 3 months ago
    Anyone that expects competence and integrity from politicians and political appointees is living on an alien planet. Incompetence is not only not a crime it is a job requirement in the world of liberal-progressives where it is "pull" that gets the job done.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 5 years, 3 months ago
    Governments, including the U.S. federal one, have used whatever power they controlled to silence the opposition and protect their essentials. This is no different. It comes right out of the book “Dictator’s Handbook.” BTW, this is a real book that anyone interested in politics should read.
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 5 years, 3 months ago
    I keep telling myself that electing Donald Trump would lead to nothing more than a "revenge presidency". Maybe that wouldn't be an entirely bad thing for the first couple of years, and Lerner could be one of his first targets.
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    • Posted by jdg 5 years, 3 months ago
      If he'll promise to prosecute Obama and Holder, I'll vote for him. One strong example would be worth two reform laws.
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      • Posted by nelly1611 5 years, 3 months ago
        I am sure that Trump has something up his sleeve already. When was the last time anyone in our government has told any truth to anything. Everybody lies. Now people don't like Trump because he tells the truth.
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      • Posted by $ nickursis 5 years, 3 months ago
        Might be worth it just to prove to the power hungry turds that there is always a chance we can strike back. I think that idea may be part of his popularity.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 5 years, 3 months ago
          Ixnay he is a left wing socialist corporatist moocher looter of the worst kind. Better off supporting Jim Webb. he's seen the worst from the inside and walked away from it and is a former Marine.Trump is a former nothing but what will benefit Trump. Now we find his bigtime deal on Ford and Mexico was done four years ago by Kasich and the move to Ohio is a four year old decision by Ford - Trump had nothing to do with it.
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          • Posted by $ nickursis 5 years, 3 months ago
            I remember Webb from his time as SecNav and could go for him. He reminds me of McCain though as far as presentation goes. Since no one looks beyond how they look and present, I don't see him beating Hillary or taking a big chunk of either parties votes. Too bad, he may well be the best one out there...
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  • Posted by gerstj 5 years, 3 months ago
    This corrupt approach to legal decisions applies to any other high level official doing Obama's bidding. Hillary will not be indicted, no matter the proof, unless Obama wants her indicted. Open fraud in the 2016 election, targeting of anyone who opposes Obama and the Left, and the like will also not be pursued. When the DOJ, the FBI and the courts are compromised, there is no redress within the system.
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  • Posted by dwlievert 5 years, 3 months ago
    To those of us who have made it a point to understand the tragedy unfolding to the principles embodied in Jefferson's timeless Declaration, it is well-understood that a great deal of the evidence for this tragedy can be found in the offices of our judicial prosecutors. Most significantly of said office(s) in the DOJ.

    Another current political symptom of this tragedy is reflected by, among other, Ben Carson. When asked if he would work to eliminate, for example, the Dept of Education, he indicated no, but he would work to make the campuses more "balanced," by appointing a "monitor" within said Dept, to oversee what constitutes desired or appropriate rhetoric in academia.

    "Monitor" indeed..........
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    • Posted by jdg 5 years, 3 months ago
      As far as I'm concerned Carson has already totally disqualified himself by saying he'll escalate the war on drugs. That's a deal-killer regardless of anything else he says or does.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 5 years, 3 months ago
        Only thing I don't like is he's a Republican ergo sum a left winger. Like all of them they have to prove their innocent of being a RINO. So far all of them have failed.

        The requirement was worse for a Democrat for htey are left wing of the left wing. One passed but it took a Marine to do it. The rest are just dross and only supporters of left wing socialist fascism would give them any time no matter what the weak ass excuse.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 3 months ago
    This POS news release was deliberately timed to be released during a weekend to minimize it being noticed.
    I recall Rush saying that about other Demo-craps on the USA.
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    • Posted by 5 years, 3 months ago
      Yes, if it happened under a republican administration the IRS getting a pass would have been front page news. They stomped on the rights of a group of citizens who attempted to change the status quo, and they got away with it.

      I am not a lawyer, but does this set a precedent? Can all administrations use the IRS to attempt to deter opposition groups in the the future?

      What a mess!
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      • Posted by llsloane 5 years, 3 months ago
        The difference, ultimately, will be in the fact that Republicans stand with integrity, and would not stoop to the level that Democrats do. So, the question is, do Republicans want to become the lowest forms of human beings in order to fight on the same level as Democrats? Apparently, it is the only way to win in politics.
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        • Posted by jabuttrick 5 years, 3 months ago
          Republicans would not misuse the IRS? Does the name Nixon ring a bell??
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          • Posted by llsloane 5 years, 3 months ago
            So, out of all of the Republicans that have been in office for the last 50 years, Nixon is the example. Out of all of the Democrats that have been in office, who is the example? Hmmm, Bill Clinton with his extra-marital affairs, Hillary with her personal server and failure to protect our people, Lerner with the IRS scandal, the VAs mis-handling of patients, Obama's foreign policy failures. Do you see a pattern? 1 incident 40+ years ago versus current affairs.
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            • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 5 years, 3 months ago
              Carter with his sheer incompetence, LBJ with 60,000 dead to his eternal shame. I wonder if you took his total worth in dollars and divided it by the military personnel killed what the value per body or name on the wall would be. I wouldn't walk across the street to clear the sidewalk for Obama but I would walk across the street to piss on LBJ's grave.
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            • Posted by jabuttrick 5 years, 3 months ago
              Nixon was the first IRS misuser to come to mind. I didn't know you wanted an exhaustive list. The Lerner affair is the only IRS scandal you cite from the last 40+ years. We both need to do more research. Of course there is a difference between the two instances we cite: There is no doubt Nixon knew and directed the misuse of the IRS for partisan political reasons. It is far from clear that Obama knew what was going on in the Cincinnatti IRS office in the screening of these purportedly non-political tax exempt organizations.
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        • Posted by jdg 5 years, 3 months ago
          I say yes, if the alternative is to fight with one foot in a bucket of cement.
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          • Posted by llsloane 5 years, 3 months ago
            I think that is the problem with most of the Republican politicians. They are so afraid of saying something that is not "politically correct" that they are being too silent. Donald Trump doesn't care about being PC. The Republican voters like that. By the way, have you noticed? Nothing that the Left says is ever politically incorrect? Even Hillary calling half of the country her enemies.
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  • Posted by gaiagal 5 years, 3 months ago
    It appears that intent, rather than result, solely determines what is right and what is wrong. "We didn't mean to hurt anyone, we just mismanaged/slipped up/couldn't foresee the unintended consequences. The fact that everything worked out in a manner that helped us is coincidental."
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  • Posted by sfdi1947 5 years, 3 months ago
    Nothings new, that's Democratic Progressive Policy/Politics, so don't hold your breath in the FBI's Hillary investigation either. I'll be very surprised if she is indicted or gets tried unless it goes to after 20 Jan. 2016.
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  • Posted by nelly1611 5 years, 3 months ago
    Here's what I think-------Lois Lerner, Barrack Obama, Hilary Clinton and probably a lot more should all be FIRED. If we did anything, especially on our job they boot us right out the door. No questions asked!Now they bring up Lois Lerner in face of the Primaries going on. It is just one coverup after another.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 5 years, 3 months ago
    "Poor judgement" can be a crime. That is the basis for malpractice suits and poor judgement in a professional context was the basis for suits brought against the executives of banking and stock institutions, was it not?

    Jan
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    • Posted by jabuttrick 5 years, 3 months ago
      Malpractice suits are not crimes. They are civil proceedings. Somebody in the IRS, probably Lerner and some of her underlings, should be fired over this since sorting applications by the name of the organization seeking non-profit status was an almost childishly incompetent way to do the jobs they were assigned but it was hardly criminal.
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      • Posted by $ jlc 5 years, 3 months ago
        Thank you, jabuttrick. This is the sort of clarification I was hoping for. So, 'poor judgement' is not a crime, but each of the organizations that was not granted timely tax-exempt status could sue her in civil court?

        Jan
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        • Posted by jabuttrick 5 years, 3 months ago
          They have two hurdles to get over. First, Lerner and her cronies will assert immunity as government employees. Second, the defendants will argue that the plaintiffs were not entitled to tax exempt status in any event since they were not principally educational but were in fact political under the oddly worded applicable rules. I do not predict an easy road for the plaintiffs.
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 5 years, 3 months ago
            Third you cannot sue the government without the government's permission.l been that way since day one. Catch 22 but there it is. What iyou have is poor incompentent management and supervision coupled with lack of leadership at the highest level.
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  • Posted by wiggys 5 years, 3 months ago
    The whole of the 0 administration should be held accountable for something but as we are seeing with H and now L that is not going to happen. The reason is simple they will stand with 0 if he were to be investigated. And that is just the way it is and will always be in d.c.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 5 years, 3 months ago
    Are they saying poor management of the iRS is not a crime? How come we make a mistake we get fined and they sliiiiiiiddddddeeeeee right out the door laughing their ass off.
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