Some of my best friends are communists

Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 2 months ago to Culture
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What makes a "good" person or a "bad" person is (no surprise) personal: within the individual. That is usually hidden from external view and judged only by actions and words in the world. That judgment is also personal: it depends on the person making it.

Consider John D. Rockefeller. Most people who care to know anything about him dislike him. Objectivists admire him, but dislike his having been a church-going Baptist. Would Rockefeller have been a better person as an atheist? You only have to look at Edison to think more than twice about that question.

That is not to say that "one hand washes the other." I believe that the final balance is, indeed, a balance, of admirable qualities versus failures.

What is the essential characteristic?

A productive person will admire the productivity of others. Consider Thomas Edison, Sandra Lerner (Cisco Systems), or Martha Stewart. Edison was not a nice guy, but that is not the essential judgment. None of them were or are paragons of Objectivist virtues - some producers seem to have had no special virtues outside of their work. Consider how we wring our hands over Bill Gates. Yet, Microsoft cannot be denied. I admire
George Soros for his success as a trader. Haters take a different view.

You can find producers and haters in any population, just like short and tall people, no matter how short or tall the group. It is an assumption in social science that however defined, differences _within_ groups are greater than differences _across_ groups. Thus, I have had many friends who were political progressives and born-again Christians, while I have suffer through many libertarian or Objectivist meetings.


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  • Posted by mccannon01 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Worship money? Not a chance. Money is just a convenient representation of what I worked for or gained by trade that I can use to obtain what I need/want for myself or my family. I have no problem saying I believe in God and Jesus Christ, but have a problem with religions.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is no "right" to enslave people to the "dictatorship of the proletariat". There is no right to act against and destroy the very concept and basis of rights.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Their system says you have no right to freely choose to teach your kids differently or live your life differently. There system requires and explicitly says it requires force and lots of it.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Then treat them on the basis of the monstrousness of what they advocate if they actually advocate it.
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    Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't take the worship of money too far either. Oh if you could see how all of this is in the Bible. I am here amongst you, would you vote me out of existence.
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  • Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I worked with people that sometimes went off formula but managed to get batches out on time. I worked with people that were good at selling.
    I worked with people that were not quite bright but tried hard to do their job well. I worked with highly intelligent highly creative and highly just barely there but I would never vote them out of existence just because we didn't agree or walk in lock step.
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  • Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The worship of the all mighty dollar since I see nothing else that guides this religion
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  • Posted by $ joy-123 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wonder what you are doing in this group if some of your best friends are Communists!
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  • Posted by MattFranke 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You do realize that the Bill of Rights is separate from the Constitution because it was written after the fact right? They basically forgot to put those qualifiers in there, and a couple years later realized, "Hey, this Constitution is nice and all; but it doesn't have any teeth. If people are going to accept it, it will need a more specific declaration of the rights of man." So as I said the other day, if they had written the Constitution right in the first place, there would be no need for a "Bill of Rights", addendum.
    So, if you despise Rand so much, that you must insist on taking her out of context and bashing her philosophy all the time; I, too must ask, "Why are you here?"
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  • Posted by ShruginArgentina 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you are capable of writing in complete sentences and try (at least) to use correct grammar and puncuation, your posts might become somewhat intelligible.
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  • Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nah she only believed on one right that was property. My constitution has a long list called the Bill of Rights hers is to undermine it mine is to protect it. There may be blood shed or it will get deleted in schools in the minds of children because even today they are inserting politics in children's minds in globallizing the education system. I may not agree with everything on the left or everything on the right but I always liked them struggling against each other in a fair fight rather than becoming indistinguishable.
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  • Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Isn't it their right to choose their government and destroy it anytime it becomes the enemy of the people?
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  • Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Globalism import people all over the world to destroy the local wages and culture by limiting speech, water down the vote, then move to jobs to the next country when profits go down. Midas owned the Gulch (Midas owned the country and the bank)-the only bank - Federal Reserve
    Galt Proxy (someone to vote for the owner of the country and the bank someone you might have to sacrifice- legislature)
    Fransisco wealthiest company singular
    Ragnar CIA KGB he works offensively not only attacking at sea and air but nearby cities he gets the authority via a license
    Reardon regulations and Supreme Court or States rights?
    Dagney the person that finally surrendered The people temporary status visas. I have debated whether this was in the book or not.
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  • Posted by Macro 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    For the love of Nathaniel Taggart... What the hell are you talking about?

    Ayn Rand was for the Constitution! She wasn't, legally, against people having their religions! Yes, she could never agree with religions rationally, as she believe this is bad for people psychologically, but she would never force anyone to give up their religion! She would rather die than force all Christians to become atheists.

    Worshiping money? No! Having a purpose in life! Money is merely the result of your work, and passion. It's just the sweat of my brown... And then I use it trade it for the result of the hard work of other people!

    I thought you were a capitalist, but apparently I was mistaken.

    Please, tell me what you are doing here, I'm curious. What do you agree with us on? Obama being awful? Well, that's true...
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