I forced myself - establishing a new personal best in forbearance, to watch the Democrat “debate.” Through discipline and perseverance, I found it instructive on two fronts.

The first is political and inescapably obvious. While the Republicans cynically believe the current contest(s) is/are between candidates, the Democrats clearly display that they understand it is a contest of ideas. Ideas which they "religiously" embrace, the support of which they remain steadfastly united - right down to their root. Specifically that the “haves” unfairly obtain their largess either through LUCK, or more often, through some form of unjust EXPLOITATION of the “have-nots.” They then divide up the electorate into ever-increasing numbers of victims, using the same old suspects as the exploiters of said victims.

The second, and more subtle revelation, is that at the root of the Democrats ideas lay their united and unabashed support for the moral tenets upon which these ideas arise.

When it is demonstrated to them that their “victims” are the result of neither luck nor exploitation, they then draw the moral argument that the former (haves) are morally obligated to the latter (have-nots). Verbalizing whatever "equitable" standard of fair or just they might fashion in support of their contention, reminding all of accepted moral obligations as our brothers keepers, common good, or some variation thereof, they then mount their podiums.

It is my judgment, that unless or until the electorate; a) understands that the source of all wealth is freedom from the coercion of others; and b) that it is inherently evil to seek, expect, or demand, that which must first be produced by one man to then be provided to another; the travesty that is the destruction of our heritage of freedom will not only continue, but accelerate. It will do so because the alleged remedy of forced redistribution, most consistently embraced by the Deomcrats is, in almost all instances, the CAUSE of the alleged “victims.”

Meanwhile the Republicans continue to evade, ignore, or actually support the MORAL tenets that provide the “fuel” for such evil, while they apologize for the "practical" benefits of freedom and Capitalism.

This party chose socialism a long time ago FDR used communist approach to Depression and created the Great Depression, gov't jobs were one digs a hole another fills the hole each day. Social Security is Socialist gov't wealth redistribution on a small scale, welfare is as well. The democrat's became communist after seeing Teddy Roosevelt do so well with the 'progressive party' in 1916, a 3rd party which beat the republican's and nearly beat the democrats, modeled after the communist manifesto published in 1848. By 1952 the 'progressive party was fully folded into the democrat party and today has fully taken over almost all of both parties leadership positions.

This move has taken a long time with the help of lazy Conservatives that kept believing in a little evil is okay as long as 'my team' wins! A little communism is never enough, it just means a long term before completely taking over, which it almost has; proof of this is Obama'a presidency.

Question truly is are we going to keep falling for the oh Cruz, Rubio, Fiorino, Graham, Romney, McCain, Bush [41/43] are just a little left leaning its okay as long as the GOP wins attitude; or are we going to say HELL NO!! We are not giving anymore inches...
Because ladies and gentlemen of the Gulch there are not many inches left to give!

Look at the progressive take over of the 2nd Amendment in the 1950's over 80% of American's stood for their 2nd Amendment rights in 2013 Zogby poll 51% for 2nd Amendment 49% against and many of the 51% agreed restrictions on the freedom to own guns is needed...ah people the 2nd Amendment says "...SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED..." THIS MEANS NO RESTRICTIONS. Do you see how far the progressives have moved this line?

Same for Public State Education...to this day SCOTUS has ruled in its opinions [as does the US Const] that the federal has no RIGHTS in State Education; then how does the Fed Dept of Ed rule our schools curriculum?

I can go on and on about Income Taxes, EPA & OSHA [the latter two are not even federal agencies] but I hope the point as shown is enough to waken the sleepy minds that have been hypnotized over the years.

This is afterall why Ayn Rand wrote; Who is John Galt?

She saw it happening first hand in Russia then in America.

I want a single payer system. That is the individual themselves taking responsibility for their health. Get government completely out of it.

Of all the candidates I was able to stomach, during that debate, Jim Webb, a former Marine, clearly stood out. He voiced the most non-Party line comments of the night and his stand on gun control, a favorite of the others, was the most conservative. If I were to choose a Democratic candidate, he would be the one.
Hilarious and Socialist Sanders were two peas in a pod, only differing on how MUCH the working class should be forced to give to their government causes. Clearly, both of them are extremely anxious to cover up Clinton's illegal email scandal, which should give anybody a strong suggestion as to these candidates interest in complying with any law.
Lastly, from what I was hearing, it was clear that the debate audience was intentionally packed with Hilarious supporters.

very interesting prediction.

Old Dino, I would add that I believe that Sanders, Pelosi and Reed, and others in the category of human sewage, have in fact grown brains. It is simply that they have made a conscious decision to use their brains to enrich themselves at other people's expense. Never underestimate the enemy; they are not dumb - the citizens of this country have willingly become dumb, and seem to be happy in this state.

Webb's only error is that it's the American people, not Congress, who pay for all the giveaways. Any Congress that buys into Bernie's giveaways WILL face a revolution!

Maybe I am wrong but aren't we or isn't the usa a socialist country in appearance but actually a facist country in reality. Under fdr's new deal all faultered until we ended up in ww2. that put people to work and after the war the country was reestablished as an economic powerhouse. Maybe the 0 crowd is interested in be adversarial with russia to have a new cold war to in a way duplicate what fdr did. The only difference is that 0 wants to use muslims so it will be guaranteed to fail. Of course if one of those clowns from the debate wins they will inherit the failure we are experiencing and will blame everything on everyone else and not themselves. I do wonder what will change if anything if a rep wins.

Trouble is, those who grow a brain by 40 (unlike Sanders, Pelosi, Reed and their elderly supporters), they will have given birth to a generation going through the same indoctrination process they did.

It is the Democrat establishment (including the MSM, et al) that are calling the shots, not the electorate!

At this stage of the game who cares if the polls think Sanders won! I doubt Sanders will even make it through the 3rd fake debate.

The Hilderbeast will be the Democrat candidate, and yes, the fix is in!

Here's a wonderful 2012 speech (that I just learned of) from Bill Whittle, explaining why Republicans can't/won't make the case for their alternative. About 15 minutes. His ending prediction for the next election will astound you.
http://youtu.be/Wgxlp2UJI5I

They have bought into it because the presumptive candidate, Hilary Clinton is so tainted that even the Progressives would have to hold their noses to vote for her.

Bernie Sanders provides an alternative. Unfortunately however, Sanders is nothing more than a place-holder for Hilary. At the appropriate time he will either flame out for his stupid politics or more than likely, he will bow out throwing his support to Clinton.

He already set the stage for that act by saying supportive things for Hilary. It is a game that the Democrat Establishment is playing to get the candidate they really want, tainted as he is, the nomination!!! For what its worth!

Progressive translates to the 1949 Communist Party membership. The Democrat party due to a lack of education apparently and a total sellout to free giveaways has now turned into a monstrosity that folks like Scoop Jackson would not recognize at all.

You have to give those sneaky Communist/Progressives (Antonio Gramsci, Saul Allinsky, Cloward and Piven" their due. They have succeeded in snookering the other 80% of their party who do not fall into that category!!

I wonder if the other then Progressive 20% will ever get it?

Rand Paul claims to have a good base in the youth. Let's hope so. At my age, as sick as socialism makes me, I'll most likely die of something else first.

No, they want a single-payer system. One that totally drains the wealth from the country. ObamaCare isn't radical enough for socialists.

Funny you should mention Winnie. I am reading a book on British warships (battle line) in WW2 and he did some really silly things when he was First Sea Lord in 1939-40. Crazy things. So maybe he is a good example of how much you can change when at the end of a pointy stick....

I'm hoping it's like Winston Churchill said "if you're not a liberal at 20 you don't have a heart, if you're not conservative at 40 you don't have a brain." Hopefully they grow out of it but if another Socialist gets in it really won't matter by the time 20 year olds are 40 years old.

Of course they do, rich, he is going all bells ahead at giving out the candy..so the kids love him... And when the bill comes due, he maybe will be dead and gone and someone else will get the blame, probably someone trying to fix his crap. Nope, this is just doomsday on stage. I wish Jim Webb had had some backbone and stood up more. You could see they were actively ignoring him and Chaffee.

Listening to that poor excuse for a debate (more like a public service ad), I noted one thing that seemed to slip by all of them. Hillary at one point was crying out all the things the masses were pleading for, and said "They want healthcare". It was in a long list, but really? Isn't Obamacare the great ripoff they all wanted? It shows that all this is just more noise to appease the thoughtless masses who think they will get all this stuff for free, and only the government has the power to force others to pay for whatever they want to give away. Bernie is like santa clause, he will give away education, houses, loans, and god know what else. I never hear a logical explanation for what the idiot will do with 30 million or so who took out loans for their college, just forgive the debt? He can't give away free college and not address that and that will be yet another huge freebie that we cannot afford. A vote for a Democrap this election is just a declaration of bankruptcy. Better file before they do....

Hello freedomforall,
There is little daylight between the two major parties. It is like sticking your head in a oven at 400 F. or 375 F. Just a matter of how fast you will have life drained away.
The "Statist Party" the Republicats... Some are just more overt.
Respectfully,
O.A.

The Democrat 'left-radical' wing of the Statist Party sounds like socialists because they want to scare the conservatives into voting for the 'left-moderate' wing of the Statist Party, the GOP.
As long as the conservatives keep voting for the GOP, evil wins, and that is the goal of the Statist Party.

Hello SaltyDog,
So you are saying to the Rs "keep your powder dry!" As long as the fix isn't in. Today the pundits are claiming she won the debate, but polls say Bernie did...
Respectfully,
O.A.

Hello richrobinson,
That is quite troubling. It would appear that many have been drinking the koolaid in schools and colleges. Have parents and grandparents made it their business to know what sort of political and economic philosophies have been taught to their children in these institutions for the last few generations? It would appear that the answer is no. :(

"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty; power is ever stealing from the many to the few."
Wendell Phillips


Respectfully,
O.A.

What worries me is reports that Bernie has a lot of young people at his rallies. If they have bought into this Socialist rhetoric the future is bleak.