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The Debate Lesson: America Now Has an Openly Socialist Party

Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 6 months ago to Politics
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“With all due respect to Senator Sanders, I don’t think the revolution is going to come, and I don’t think the Congress is going to pay for all this.” Jim Webb
That quote about sums up the plans of every other candidate on the stage at that "debate."


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  • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is called "Great Ships" (Stackpole Military History Series) from Hamiltonbook.com (an awesome place to buy books incredibly cheap)

    http://www.hamiltonbook.com/the-great...

    The book details the issues with the British and their perceptions of the international scene, the balancing act of budgets vs battleships, the impact of the bomber on perceptions of how they would fare in a war and their designs. Then it cover WW2 and detailed ship history. A very good book on the subject, but part describes some of Winston's brighter moment where the Navy wanted new battleships that could actually go up against the Bismarck class, as their ships were mainly from WW1 and quite inferior. Winston canned the work on them for a year, and then had several merchant ships redone to look like battleships and aircraft carriers, which were sunk very shortly after. He also had a bad habit as First Sea Lord of ignoring the admirals and going off on hisd own tangents in regards to priorities and designs. Some were good, some not. He was also the one behind the "out of the box" thinking that developed CAM ships (carried a fighter you could launch, but not recover, pilot bailed out into the sea and hoped to get picked up), as well as the myriad D Day projects.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He made his errors and had a very interesting career including I remember commanding an infantry battalion in WWI. Journalist in South Africa during the Boer War. Closely associated with the British Navy Working vocabulary of some 10,000 words and used to engage in shakespeare quoting contests until they found out he was making them up on the spot. Used sit on park benches with his friends and grade the girls passing by with "Is this the face that could launch a thousand ships?" Then the grade two rowboats on up to a fleet battleship. Winston Churchills Toyshop developed most of the devices used in clandestine efforts up until recent years. A man of many, varied, interests and a superb intellect.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not really I generally put USMC above US Army Infantry (airborne all the way) and other such related units.) That's twice though in a few weeks I've seen or heard of a former Marine in this position the other dude was sporting a Bernie sticker. I regret losing any one of that statures lives and the 18 to 1 death ratio of US Service personnel in wars started and then lost by a Democrat as compared to a Republican (which is the only difference between the two that mattered or matters to me - makes me wonder. Too damn many good people in the Corps and in my own units (101st, 5th Group) died for not much to nothing.

    As for his stances any number of the others would keep me from voting for him. It's a far far too left wing stance for my taste and I consider republicans in much the same light.

    Second reason I swore that oat the Constitution ...means something to me. what's it go to do with this government?"

    As for jarhead remark it came from a book I read long ago and far far away. May have been Clancy.

    I read the post about the only error he made in that dog and pony show. couldn't pull up the u tube whatever as usual but it piqued my interest. I wouldn't have bothered for anyone else. Thus the power of U S M C.

    Too many errors for whatever reason and as usual a lot of last minute last second unknown names showed up here the next morning....you are not in that category... so I tend to disbelief without independent vetting from a known member or my own research a lot of what is said. thus the pop quiz. The term ex and former marine are not new. They are really really old. they have their own special meaning...as any member of the Corps past or present can tell you. Nothing disjointed about it.

    It's one way I honor them.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wondered about that very subject. Are former Presidents and Congressionals exempt from the arrest procedures in the Patriot Act? For that matter how about members of the DISS? (DOHS to you.) I looked but didn't find it. The act itself does not have to contain all the operating functions though. Another one of Congress secret side deals. Signed undated pardons perhaps?
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A terrorist would be a more applicable description. After all, Obama has willfully done more damage to this country than bin Laden.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes we don't have enough bandwidth to support u tube. So whatever it was will remain a mystery unless they have it available in more than one format.....I live in the majority part of the world and I don't do u tube. At all.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Figures. So now it appears to be a no payer system last I heard that little detail was yet to be accomplished AND funded. What an AMAZING asshole.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wasn't his only error. I read his own web site Jim Webb On the Issues. He may have been a Marine but I would make that ex-Marine not former Marine.
    Not that I would support anyone from the left wing of the left anyway but it sounds like he said one thing but actively pursues a much further left agenda.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Obama's system is called "single payer" because it is not. Just like the Democratic Republic of North Korea and the Democratic Republic of Germany, or honest news in Pravda, or the New York Times...
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Generally, Churchill was very much on the ball, as far as I know. Which instances do you have in mind? - will make interesting reading.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago
    Here's from Jim Webb On the issue site. THUMBS DOWN and I didn't need to listen to the the phony debates.

    Click here for 6 full quotes on Abortion OR background on Abortion.

    Supports Roe v. Wade and abortion rights. (Jun 2006)
    Voted NO on restricting UN funding for population control policies. (Mar 2009)
    Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
    Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
    Voted NO on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)
    Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)


    James Webb on Budget & Economy
    Click here for 7 full quotes on Budget & Economy OR background on Budget & Economy.

    Top of economy doing great; but workers not. (Jan 2007)
    Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
    Voted YES on modifying bankruptcy rules to avoid mortgage foreclosures. (May 2009)
    Voted YES on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package. (Feb 2009)
    Voted YES on $60B stimulus package for jobs, infrastructure, & energy. (Sep 2008)
    Voted NO on paying down federal debt by rating programs' effectiveness. (Mar 2007)
    Reform mortgage rules to prevent foreclosure & bankruptcy. (Feb 2008)

    James Webb on Civil Rights
    Click here for 7 full quotes on Civil Rights OR background on Civil Rights.

    Evolution on gay marriage has been good for the country. (Oct 2014)
    Affirmative action should apply to African-Americans only. (Sep 2006)
    Supports civil unions; opposes constitutional ban. (Jun 2006)
    Opposes constitutional ban of gay marriage. (Jun 2006)
    Government’s power should end at my front door. (Apr 2006)
    Realign politics by union of Scots-Irish & African Americans. (Jan 2006)
    ENDA: prohibit employment discrimination for gays. (Jun 2009)

    James Webb on Corporations
    Click here for 3 full quotes on Corporations OR background on Corporations.

    If you've got capital, you're feeling pretty good. (Oct 2014)
    GOP puts corporate interests first; Dems put workers first. (Apr 2006)
    Rated 86% by UFCW, indicating an anti-management/pro-labor record. (May 2012)

    James Webb on Crime
    Click here for 2 full quotes on Crime OR background on Crime.

    Voted NO on reinstating $1.15 billion funding for the COPS Program. (Mar 2007)
    Reduce recidivism by giving offenders a Second Chance. (Mar 2007)

    James Webb on Drugs
    Click here for background on Drugs.

    No issue stance yet recorded by OnTheIssues.org.

    James Webb on Education
    Click here for 2 full quotes on Education OR background on Education.

    Public education levels the playing field. (May 2006)
    Voted YES on additional $10.2B for federal education & HHS projects. (Oct
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  • Posted by InfamousEric 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed Rich, but Ron Paul had a lot of young people at his rallies also. (So does Rand btw).

    Didn't do as much as I had hoped for him...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    the only thing that matters is the eventual new Fuhrer will be whomever the current Fuhrers have decided upon the rest including these joke party labels is ....irrelevant. Benefits of a totatlitarian one party system now go out and vote for it again - dumb asses..
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It was easy. I had 50 years experience and st is st. I read a book and made some Amazon orders. All in all a productive evening.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Single payer systems are useful only for the very rich or if you work for the government or other employer who provides everything. For the average family with two employeed adults hopefully working for two separate employers who have separate healthcare plans it was WAS a case of setting one up to cover what the other didn't. THEN a third contract at very very low cost from a third payer was catrastrophic care. Kicked in when the other or others was max'd out. If handled correctly .....Most insurerers wanted the whole premium portion of the bundle and got greedy. But Canadians to make a good example routinely but catastrophic care policies south of the border. The Canadians couldn't afford to pay out of pocket when Canadian system ran dry of funds and the need was immediate but they could afford to pay premiums to protect that eventuality. Add a very inexpensive air ambulance service and que bueno good to gol. Until obamacare came along and now no one knows what they have or don't have EXCEPT outfits like Mayo where my sister works and Mayo doesn't accept government dollars and with it government control. In the last five or six years they expanded in Florida and took over a hospital in Georgia too handle the increase in patients or members patients. Besides the one in Arizona and the original one in Minnesota.

    Military retirement medical is crap outside the country and VA is crap inside the country unless you know someone or paid someone off. - and so is Medicare. The doctors where I live and the hospitals don't like waiting years for obama to decide how to pay. So they stabilize at a very very low rate put you on the air ambulance and whoosh your back at Merciful Heavens Mercy Last Care - AKA ObamaCare. Hillary was right in saying what she did... she just didn't come out ans say her party had failed failed failed to do anything but increase cost and decrease servoces. Obamacare is a bigger joke than Obama.

    I'd like to see a good description of his medical costs after a life of absenteeism and never holding down a job.....
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