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    Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 2 months ago
    There is a whole socioeconomic side to retail that is touched on here... You have different classes of retail, from the high dollar to the deep discount. Go to the "cheap" part of town and see how many high dollar supermarkets are there VS the local, ethnnic, or discount grocers. Then reverse that test - how many truly deep discount grocers do you see in affluent neighborhoods?

    The rub is this - if an "economically higher" market goes into an "economically lower" neighborhood, it brings the property value and prosperity of the area up. For a "community leaderdhip group" like the aforementioned PAALF this is a disaster, because their opressed soldiers in their war are not as opressed, and their power to control "their group" is diminished.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 2 months ago
    So, by the theory of the Portland African American Leadership Forum, they should import some additional crack-ho's, drug dealers, cash advance storefronts, and welfare offices. That will be the best thing for the oppressed people of the community.

    Geez, how can people be so stupid?
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    • Posted by $ sjatkins 10 years, 2 months ago
      Because we let them get away with it. We let them proudly show off sores and incompetence and blatant disregard for reality and claim we owe them a living and the means to continue to do so. We take it as our guilt that they exist and that we are better off. We allow them to enslave us for our own destruction.

      That is how they can be so stupid - and not only survive but increase in number.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 2 months ago
    PAALF's statement once again illustrates Michael Savage's potent phrase, "Liberalism is a mental disorder." Anyone who buys such convoluted thinking is as crazy as their reasoning is.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 10 years, 2 months ago
    One of the best written articles I have ever seen. I couldnt figure out who the author was. Maybe he is in hiding. The whole situation would be laughable if it wasnt so sad.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 years, 2 months ago
    No doubt another community will successfully host Trader Joe's. Subsequently, socialists will be back to collect money from the successful community to distribute to this poor community to cover for a bad decision they made...no doubt another in a long series of bad decisions, and perhaps a small amount of starting out with little to work up from...wait a minute, I did that too!
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  • Posted by KYFHO 10 years, 2 months ago
    I live east of Portland and know well the area in question. Nike has an outlet store, built new. No one brought up these complaints when Nike came to this very same neighborhood. Hmmm. Nike does not drive up realty values? How odd. Also, no complaints forthcoming about Popeye's Chicken or other national retailers coming to town. Trader Joes does not fit their criteria as a useful retailer. Susanne's comments regarding the socioeconomic side to this argument are exactly right. But, being slightly singed, Joe's is not now in any hurry to investigate the offers to "come on down" from the mayors of neighboring cities, Wood Village and Gresham, which are only marginally better suited to fit their customer base, both cities being made up of approximately 50% illegals. I did not reference any one ethnic group, so stay off that bandwagon, please either to agree or excoriate. I am adding my viewpoint only because I do live in the area.
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  • Posted by jimslag 10 years, 2 months ago
    So, Trader Joe's stood on principle and PAALF lost out on some economic activity and improvements. Serves them right and unfortunately keeps some of citizens in poverty without that economic enhancement. I truly hope that the community stands up to these "leaders" and tells them where to go.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 10 years, 2 months ago
    They are using the same successful tactic that has worked for the PLO for over half a century -- keep their proletariat members in abject poverty in the "refugee camps" (ghettos) while themselves enjoying all the trappings of royalty. These are domestic terrorists and, obviously, they use terrorist tactics.
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  • Posted by mminnick 10 years, 2 months ago
    You can bet that all of the legally binding contracts and documents would be one sided. The community organizers get the loot, the companies get screwed and the people are poorer in spirit and money because the businesses pass on the extortion they have to pay to the organizers.
    A legal question. Isn't what was described as happening a form of extortion? pay me or you can't do business here?
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    • Posted by $ KahnQuest 10 years, 2 months ago
      I believe the common term for it is "protection racket."
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      • Posted by mminnick 10 years, 2 months ago
        I think "Protection Racket" is when you pay someone to stay in business. The best term I can think of would be "Extorting a bribe.) They wanted Trader Joe's to pay them a bribe to let them build.. Extortion may not be the correct word, but they sure wanted a bride to go away.
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        • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 2 months ago
          No, Extortion Racket is Apropos... Having lived in a city controlled by kindred spirits to this Portland Group (Oakland, CA), it's amazing the depths they will go to to keep the opressed people opressed, to keep them voliatle and angry at the "entitled classes" while those in control skim off the money and guard their golden gooseegg with the ferocity of a bengal tiger protecting its cubs, while telling everyone how they were part of the "downtrodden masses" themselves and they were looking out for their best interests.

          When you live in a city like that, it is an educational experience just how dangerous the moocher class can be... and how accurately Ayn nailed it when she wrote about exploiting the source of power to death, then fighting over the scraps and dregs.

          Any wonder why we left for our Valhalla? ;-)
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          • Posted by mccannon01 10 years, 2 months ago
            I had the "opportunity" to have contracts in the Oakland area where I was employed for about a month each on two separate occasions. It was creepy to drive through residential areas where all the houses had bars on the windows and doors. I have no desire to ever go back there again. More creepy is the ex mayor of Oakland gets to be governor of California again. Must be something in the water.

            I have to mention I did experience a Trader Joes in Oakland to buy items to take back to the hotel where I was staying. Nice place.
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  • Posted by jetgraphics 10 years, 2 months ago
    The spin doctors did a whoo - hoo:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index...
    " Director Cyreena Boston Ashby said PAALF's consistent goal has been to bring attention to what it views as the real problem: the development commission's lack of transparency in projects that affect the black community."
    ...
    When did free people need to get permission?
    My mistake, we're in the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America.
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  • Posted by gonzo309 10 years, 2 months ago
    This could be an Agenda 21 maneuver to redevelop the area. Based on Rosa Koire's book "Behind The Green Mask: U.N. Agenda 21", areas are condemned so that Federal Funds can be gotten for a "blighted area". This way, the redevelopment is in the hands of the government, not the non-Agenda 21 developer.

    More can be found in Rosa Koire's lecture at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoMaYJwLy...
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 2 months ago
    good for them. they are expensive but offer unique choices which I like. Also, you can get good deals on wine
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 2 months ago
      They have good prices on some things. They are better in overall prices than Whole Foods, in my experience.
      Trader Joe's even beats Woodman's on some organic foods.
      I don't see Trader Joe's as a luxury store for people looking to blow money. They are not good on all prices, though, so only someone with extra money or no time to spare would do all shopping there.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 10 years, 1 month ago
    And P.A.A.L.F. still goes to their neighborhood bank with their check raised in one hand pronouncing "We one again". As mccannon01 wrote check Detroit or as the people around call it "Little Beirut".
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  • Posted by $ kathywiso 10 years, 2 months ago
    I love Trader Joe's and I am so glad that they chose to make this business decision :-) Great post and so in tune with Ayn Rand and her philosophy.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 10 years, 2 months ago
    Bringing more economic development to a poor area makes it poorer? What non-logic is this? The disadvantaged are more so if you bring the possible advantages of more development to the area? Well perhaps so if you are determined to keep them disadvantaged to keep your own position as their spokesperson.
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