freedom, go for it!

No doubt.
I hope that when it comes to immigration we can, with a few caveats, return to what was rather than what is.

Yes, and that was no accident or coincidence. The policies have nothing to do with open borders, just a way to control people, and specifically to make everyone possible a criminal by definition.

hallo, martimus. good points.

No, khalling, immoral people exist everywhere. A=A People here who work hard and pull the wagon have just as many objections to those born here to parents who are already citizens being moochers, too. A=A And, yes, we DO oppose the mass importation of whole flotillas of even MORE moochers who have NO clue how a democratic republic works--nor do they give sh*t. We are also not happy with the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment to include automatic birthright citizenship for the off spring of people who are not citizens--it causes moochers to enter and to 'game the system.' Such situations result when people appointed to high courts by politicians with agendas have an opportunity to read their own beliefs (however subjective) into vaguely stated premises rather than specifically codified law. I am well aware that you support open borders and unrestricted migration...which you euphemistically refer to, "freedom to travel." And we are just as sick as you are of the immigration debate which (btw) is not going to end on this forum or anywhere else because we ignorant old pragmatists clearly understand that before the principles and premises of Objectivism could be instilled culture wide [I means how's it worked for you so far? Kind of slow going, eh?] the nation as it is currently governed would collapse under the weight of unrestricted, "Ya'll Come!" Unrestricted migration works well when there is NO welfare state and laissez faire capitalism is the economic system, yes. But the REALITY of the matter is that the USA has a generous welfare state, and under the present circumstances it is economic and social suicide to have an open border policy. Too many of those who come here to avail themselves of the welfare state will NEVER democratically vote to eliminate or severely restrict said existing welfare state. When the plane is going down, one puts on his own oxygen mask before attempting to help others. The same principle applies to preventing unrestricted illegal and legal immigration UNTIL the welfare state is done away with. Do you see that happening any time soon? Call me pragmatic, xenophobic, an a-hole or any other excoriative term you like, but A remains A...even for pragmatists. It does NO good to shut the stall door AFTER the horse has escaped=REALITY. Go ahead and down vote. I don't care. Even most pragmatists just aren't into immediate self-immolation. Let me put it into the vernacular for you: We have more than enough 'home-grown' moochers without importing more.

Spelling checker changed my first word- should have been "current". I stand by my comment. I live in Las Vegas and the great proportion of the immigration here from South America are looking for the freebies we give them. Mexico is a socialist country in many ways, so they come here and are delighted by the government handouts available here that aren't possible in poorer Mexico. Surely there are some immigrants who want to come here because of our freedoms and values, and they learn English and add to our cultures

My point is that these are increasingly fewer and farther between, especially within the hordes which have come from South America. I see this every day unfortunately