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Trump: Eminent Domain "Wonderful"

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From the article: "I think eminent domain is wonderful if you're building a highway and you need to build as an example, a highway, and you're going to be blocked by a hold-out or in some cases, it's a hold-out, just so you understand, nobody knows this better than I do, I built a lot of buildings in Manhattan and you'll have 12 sites and you'll get 11 and you'll have the one hold-out and you end up building around them and everything else," Trump said Tuesday on Special Report.
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    Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
    The thread could have been entitled "Donald Trump: anti-private property rights corporate fascist".

    In the interview by Fox on eminent domain and his previous support for the infamous Kelo decision, Trump made an even more sweeping assertion than the one quoted above where he boasts that he has used eminent domain to seize property himself: "So eminent domain when it comes to jobs, roads, the public good, I think it's a wonderful thing, I'll be honest with you." @2:50min in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...

    Trump is trying to convey the impression that eminent domain is only used against people who hold out for more money they don't deserve in defying a recognized "public good" and that they are paid many times the market value of their property. Value to whom? He dismisses as irrelevant those who he claims "rarely" say "I love my house". Not only are people not 'overpaid' in this unscrupulous scheme of statist collectivism they are forced to abjectly submit , abandon their personal values, and then leave at their own expense in both money and personal disruption of their lives. None of this matters to a tyrant like Trump. This alleged "savior", who is being supported as the 'man on the white horse' is only an ugly little Pragmatist with a big mouth, opposed to principle on principle and who would ruthlessly push us into deeper statism under his narcissist "deals".

    The first time I was interviewed for a radio program on the topic of eminent domain and the National Park Service years ago I was asked, but don't they pay you a fair price? The immediate response that came to me naturally was, "There is no such thing as a fair price for something that is not for sale". But not in Donald Trump's world where the rights and values of the individual don't matter. He's the fascist who knows how to "get things done", and don't dare ask, "get what things done at whose expense?"

    See also previous gg posts:

    "The Widow and Eminent Domain" http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts...

    "More on Trump eminent domain anti-private property rights" https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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    • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
      From "The Volokh Conspiracy" (legal blog) "Donald Trump claims taking of property for private development is 'not taking property'” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...
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      • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
        Howie Carr's Boston radio show (broadcast into several states) had a major segment on Trump and eminent domain today. Fortunately the word is spreading and the outrage along with it. This is a very big issue. There was an uproar over the Kelo Supreme Court decision expanding eminent domain -- which Trump endorsed -- 10 years ago and the problem is much bigger than most people are aware. Tens of thousands of people have been force out of their homes, land and businesses for National Parks alone. This is not just about urban development.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
      No one says Trump is a libertarian or Objectivist, or even close to it. He is a businessman, which our country needs right now. He cant get anything through without the congress, which will dampen any really radical desires.

      What he WILL do is bring politically incorrect subjects up for public discussion that are now hidden, which is a hell of a lot better than a Hillary who will lurk in the basement with her secret emails and let us find out what she did after she is out of office.

      When have we heard a politician say that eminent domain is a tool to take private property away? They just do it, and be quiet. Now it brings the subject up for debate- not unlike what Snowden did.
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      • Posted by conscious1978 8 years, 6 months ago
        Term, by your 'logic', we should respect and promote anyone that is acting unethically, but not illegally, because they are highlighting the unethical behavior for public debate. Uhhh...No!

        Trump's unprincipled, unethical behavior is not a badge of courage on his part "to bring the subject up for debate". He doesn't want to change eminent domain!! He thinks "it's a wonderful thing"!

        Don't kid yourself, Trump has no principled respect for individual rights.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
          Rand Paul might have some respect for individual rights, as might Ben Carson. But they arent going to be electable in this cultural climate. The rest of them have no "principled respect for individual rights" either, but they hide and manipulate. I think Trump will do less harm in a lot of ways and some definite good in others. Given the election is based basically on popularity and not principles, and we are in a culturally bankrupt society at present, I think the choice of Trump this time for 4 years is a better choice. I understand you hate him, but if he doesnt make it, you will wind up with one that is far worse. Imagine if Hillary gets elected.
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          • Posted by conscious1978 8 years, 6 months ago
            Trump is more dangerous than many others when it comes to tolerable positions. He has a history, that precedes his campaign, of letting his mouth get ahead of his brain and a juvenile pettiness in public interactions. That, combined with his unprincipled Pragmatism, is why I hope others can see past the thin cloth of his 'business' attire.
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            • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
              hmm. My first pick would be Rand Paul, and perhaps Ben Carson (if he would shed that religiosity). But neither of them will ever be elected this time. The alternative would be Hillary or Sanders if the Repubs actually nominated Paul or Carson. Trump is the only one who has a chance to unseat Hillary (or Biden if he runs). Its scary.
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              • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 6 months ago
                Carson is anti-gun. That's a deal killer for me.
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                • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                  No one seems to say that the 2nd amendment was to protect US against our government becoming nazi like. The saving us from terrorists and thieves is a much smaller issue in my opinion.
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                • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 6 months ago
                  He clarified his statement which was taken out of context. He's not as pro-gun as some other candidates, but at least he wants to deal with the real issue: the lack of fathers in black America and the lack of mental health controls. I'd personally take Carson over Trump in a heartbeat.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago
            I would rather live in Mexico than live under a Trump looter dictatorship.
            Just another looter who feels he is better than the rest of the people that the POTUS is supposed to serve,
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            • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
              Mexico? I used to have a plant there and left. Its not a nice place unless you are rich enough to pay off the local officials and you keep your wealth buried somewhere in gold and silver. Its socialist, dude, 100%. Most south american countries are.

              They just got rid of Maquiladoras (which is what I had), and they have a incoming duty from China over 20%. Not to mention their 10% VAT.

              If Hillary or Sanders gets in, I am ready to leave. I am afraid no one on the Repub side other than Trump can beat the Democrat candidates. Not a very good set of choices.
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              • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago
                NOt a good set of choices as long as so-called conservatives continue to waste votes on the GOP.
                The only peaceful way to return to individual liberty and free markets is for people claiming to oppose the statists to recognize that any vote for either major party is a vote for slavery.
                Trump is just another looter who will predictably use the power of the presidency to steal from everyone else for his own benefit. He is a perfect representative of the GOP.
                Rand Paul could beat Hillary in a landslide.
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                • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                  I dont think Rand Paul could beat anyone IF he actually got to the general election. Too many people arent into making government smaller nowadays. I would pick him #1 if I thought he coule even make it to the primary. Carson has a lot of religious baggage and it turns me off. Trump will at least tell it like it IS for a change, and he DOES have a chance to get on the general ballor
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                  • Posted by conscious1978 8 years, 6 months ago
                    The only "change" Trump is for...is what he can squeeze out the 'celebrity' of being POTUS. He understands the market value of sycophants that could care less about his ethics after he leaves office. He would make Clinton and Obama look like pikers.
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                    • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                      The more people dislike Trump I feel they are threatened by his anti establishment mentality. He would shake things up, and if that ALL he did, I would be happy. Too much cronyism is hidden now that people get away with. He is admitting openly he uses the system, with the clear implication that the system is broken and needs fixing.
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                      • Posted by conscious1978 8 years, 6 months ago
                        "The establishment" is corrupt. Trump is part of that corruption. He has participated, willingly, in that corruption. He cannot maybe fix it, partially fix it, fix it better than others, or point out it needs fixing with any credibility.

                        Maybe I'll offer a strong opinion at a later time....
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                  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago
                    Rand Paul would wipe the floor with Hillary. The media would pretend it was close and destroy what little remained of their credibility.
                    But the GOP will never let Rand get close to the party banner. He represents everything they despise, and we revere.
                    Trump will say whatever he feels his audience wants to hear. Trump is a snake.
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                    • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                      I agree Rand Paul would never make it through the mill. Thats why it seems no one is even bothering to disparage him. Trump would demolish Hillary given all her sneakiness and manipulations. But I think we will never get to see Rand vs Hillary in one of their manipulated debates. She will see to it that never happens. The more people disparage Trump, the more I think the country needs what he can do
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          • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 6 months ago
            Hillary would not be any worse than Trump. In fact, the Clintons asked Trump to run.

            It's got to be Paul, Cruz, or nobody.
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            • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
              Hillary wants all sorts of socialist things that will kill business, like the $15 minimum wage. She is NOT a bill clinton by any means. She did a horrible job as secretary of state, and she is politically correct to the point of hiding her own emails. Do we want a reincarnation of Nixon AGAIN.

              I will vote for Paul, perhaps Carson, and Trump in that order. Whoever makes it through the media blitz. I suspect Paul and Carson wont make it thru the nomination. Hillary wanted Trump to run perhaps because she figured he was an easy person to beat. I think Trump vs Hillary would land us Trump. Anything but Hillary or Sanders.

              Cruz is a religious zealot, as is Rubio, and to an extent Carson. The rest of the repubs are not even in the running.
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              • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                Trump shouted at a campaign rally, "What is my favorite book? The Bible." He has campaigned waving a Bible over his head, telling us it is the Bible he was given as a child. One can question if he has read it since then, but he has thoroughly absorbed the altruist-collectivist premises of religion and appeals to them just as you would expect from a demagog.
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                • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                  That is a bit disturbing. But I bet he reads it less than the other candidates at least. Carson disappointed me also with religious bullshit too. None of the candidates are libertarian , objectivism . AND electable
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                  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                    Whether or not he reads it (and I doubt it, too), he is wildly endorsing it and certainly believes in religious premises in general as the ideal.
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                    • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                      They all pander to religious stuff. Some more than others really mean it
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                      • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                        Yelling that his favorite book is the Bible, waving a Bible in the air, and rationalizing expanded eminent domain as justified by the "public good" is more than pandering.
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                        • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                          Real usurping if power quietly is the normal way with Washington insiders. Look at obamacare. I would rather have an outsider bring things to the light of day for a change. They all wave the bible. It's stupid but the majority of people in this country believe that religious crap.
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                        • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                          So you would definitely not like the other candidates like Cruz. Rubio. Footing. Huckabee and probably the rest of them for playing the god card either. Certainly you would definitely not like the disgusting pandering to the pope that went on. Then we come to the really dangerous people like Obama. , Hillary, and sanders who would cause very real and extensive damage to our way of life. Fact of the matter is that trump would be a hell of a lot better than any other electable repub candidates and he probably is the only one who could spare us the real destruction of Hillary or sanders. Dump trump and you will get Hillary or sanders in November 2016
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      • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
        Trump did not "bring eminent domain up for debate". This has nothing in common with Snowden. He said nothing about eminent domain until he was questioned about his past unethical behavior and his response is that he is unrepentant. He is campaigning on anti-private property rights. He did not admit that eminent domain takes private property. He is trying to pretend that it does not take property. Listen to the video of his Fox interview: "So eminent domain when it comes to jobs, roads, the public good, I think it's a wonderful thing, I'll be honest with you. And remember, you're not taking private property... You're paying a fortune for that property".

        We do not need a businessman to run the country. We need someone who would at least in part return to protecting the rights of the individual. That means an emphatic 'no' to an unprincipled Pragmatist and nationalist fascist who wants to run the country as if it were his own business. It is not true that he couldn't do enormous damage without Congress giving him what he wants. The President has enormous power to run the entire Federal government through his political appointees under vague powers granted by Congress long ago. Nor could Congress be expected to not go along with his statism and collectivism.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
          Well we are talking about the subject !! Whether he is president of one of the others, eminent domain is unlikely to Change at all. As far as what affects my rights this is a small issue. Immigration. Welfare. Taxation. Destruction of the dollar. Federal reserve Fighting useless wars are the biggies. The real bad guys are Hillary , sanders, Biden. Any of the republican arebetterthan those. Plan a is together someone to keep the democrats out
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          • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
            The use of eminent domain changes depending on who is running the government. Trump holds an explicitly Pragmatist, anti-private property rights ideology. If you don't care about your own or others' rights to one's home or land, what other rights do you think are safe from such a mentality, including under taxation? Rights are indivisible. Whether or not Trump is worse than a Democrat (which he recently was himself) is not an excuse to promote him. He is a fascistic demagogue who appeals to a certain anti-intellectual group by throwing out red meat.
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            • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
              I wonder why all this vitriol about trump when he is an angel when compared with any of the democratic candidates and is the ONLY republican with a chance in hell of beating the democratic candidate. Denouncing trump will just insure Hilary's election, a much worse end result
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              • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                Openly endorsing eminent domain as "wonderful" is not being an angel compared to anyone, and it's not his only problem. There is no excuse for it. Claiming Trump as a hero and the "only Republican" who can beat Hilary Clinton is ridiculous. There is no objective basis for claiming this big mouth with a record can beat the Democrats at all.
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    • Posted by Danno 8 years, 6 months ago
      Who cares... elect for comedy. 'Merica done.
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      • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
        People who care about private property rights and the brutality of eminent domain care.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
          Eniment domain should be abolished. Governments are the worst offenders of course.
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          • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
            Yes it should be abolished. But governments are the only offenders using eminent domain. It's a strictly government power. When cronies like Trump exploit it they don't do it on their own, they go through some government entity. When utility companies, including pipeline companies, use it it is under authority granted directly by government for a specific purpose deemed to be for the "public good". Eminent domain is based on a collectivist premise.
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          • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 6 months ago
            As with nearly anything, eminent domain can be abused. It has a place, but the Kelo decision was truly an epicly bad decision.
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            • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
              Eminent domain does not have a "place" in a free society, It has very big place in this society.
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              • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 6 months ago
                I disagree. There are times when government should have the ability to declare eminent domain for the construction of public facilities - especially roads. But they should pay a fair price for those properties (which accounts for degraded property values, etc.) and the process should be open to public hearing and comment so alternatives can be suggested and debated.

                The problem with eminent domain as it has been used recently is in the distortion of the purpose from eminent domain to cronyism. That is where Trump fits in, as he has been a crony recipient of eminent domain's use and therefore supports such policies.
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                • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                  Enormous injustices have been perpetrated against private owners in the name of "public facilities". That includes tens of thousands of people arrogantly displaced by government agencies like the National Park Service. This started long before there was a Donald Trump. There is no collective "right" to seize other people's property and no such thing as a "fair price" for something is not for sale. If you don't understand that then there is no place in a free society for you and your statist collectivism either.
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                  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 6 months ago
                    As has become all too typical of you, you can't just disagree politely, you have to devolve to personal attacks. You attribute to my views things that are not part of my views and use broad-brush characterizations to libel me. You claim that anyone who disagrees is ignorant or unlearned. You only expose your own ignorance and frankly dishonesty by engaging in such.
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                    • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                      Your anti-private property rights mentality is reprehensible, and no, it doesn't belong in a free society. As usual you duck the argument and try to personalize it with false statements in non-responsive posts. Eminent domain has in fact been an abuse against innocent people since long before Trump.
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  • Posted by khalling 8 years, 6 months ago
    the original foundation for eminent domain was "public works" which does not include private developers or companies or individuals who want to build.
    Classic interests that are public have been public thoroughfares. (disclaimer: not supporting the use of this) but Trump is talking about a crony relationship for his personal gain.
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    • Posted by MinorLiberator 8 years, 6 months ago
      A key point, kh, relatively recent and unknown to most. I agree that eminent domain even in its original meaning can be argued against, but the recent expanded meaning to include private developments that by some convoluted logic benefit "the public as a whole" rather than the developers and at best a small surrounding "public" are clearly wrong. I believe I've read or heard that Coney Island is currently a target for "condemnation", as its owners do not want to sell, but some private developers think they can revitalize it, especially if they can get it cheap through eminent domain.

      Trump is in no way an admirable, successful businessman. He is and always has been the ultimate crony capitalist, and since he entered the "R" field has been #1 on my "anybody but" list, moving Jeb Bush to a distant 2nd...
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      • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
        Ayn Rand was right in that once you dont stick up for the concept of private property, it will slip away slowly over time as you have no high ground to stand on any more. Now we are forced to buy health insurance from private companies, OR get taxed by the government.
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      • Posted by Danno 8 years, 6 months ago
        Talk to the black jazz community that was destroyed by the expressway in Milwaukee. Never recovered. German politicians were the cause of the destruction of Milwaukee with welfare etc to groom dependent votes.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
      Its no better use of eminent domain for "public works". Its still stealing from private individuals, just papered over with some sort of social "good".
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      • Posted by khalling 8 years, 6 months ago
        read db's remarks above. For example, a private railroad building cross continent cannot keep people from crossing the railroad.

        These is a difference between its original concept and how Trump uses it. Kelo would have never been supported originally. A proper govt would have almost 0 need to use it. It would rarely come up. That the Supreme Court upheld Kelo, shows how far gone property rights have become
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
          In Las Vegas, the city used it so much it got tossed out in Nevada courts. A cross country railroad would just have overpasses and underpasses to encourage business to use their railroad.
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    • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
      People in business are not automatically statists. The notion that economic interests determine political philosophy is a Marxist argument. Trump is a Pragmatist with the usual collectivist and progressive statist assumptions.
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      • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
        He does what WE allow him to do as a society. The blame really goes to us. I can WANT people to support me , but if I get it through government payments its the fault of the government for allowing it to happen.
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        • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
          "We" do not allow or sanction eminent domain. The statists do that, and Trump enthusiastically exploits it while loudly endorsing it. He doesn't even say "Stop me before I do it again".
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          • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
            So you think any of the other candidates are better AND have the slightest chance of being elected?
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            • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
              Some of them probably are significantly "better", i.e., less worse, and yes they do have a good chance of being elected against the kind of junk the Democrats are putting forth. But it depends on how they campaign. Whatever their success could be, it doesn't make Trump a viable candidate that is any better. He is currently popular (though declining) with a certain group he panders to, but the more he talks, the more repetitively shallow and nutty he reveals himself to be.
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              • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                It's so early yet. Carson is declining too and so is Hillary. Sanders is increasing and Biden is about to jump in. I will vote for rand Paul first, probably trump second, and Carson third. Depending on wh is on repub ballot
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                • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                  You can only vote within the choice on the ballot at the time, like any them or not, or not vote at all if it makes no significant difference. Here we are discussing the threat of Donald Trump's policies and philosophy. Comparing Trump to other candidates who may or may not be on the ballot is no justification for supporting him for what he is.
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                  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                    Denouncing trump will just insure Hillary wins. I don't want that to happen and I don't see any other republican candidate able to beat her. This country can't stand another Obama regime
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                    • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                      Trump is denounced for what he is. He is a dangerous false alternative and not the only one who could defeat the Democrats, if he could at all. That so many conservatives are easily stampeded into supporting this demagogue shoes how intellectually weak the conservatives are as they emotionally rush to jump on a bandwagon for a statist demagogue.
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                      • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                        Now we get to it. Just who else could defeat Hillary or sanders? Like it or not, election of a president relies on getting a majority. It's to a large degree a popularity contest supported by media manipulations. Philosophical arguments fall on the deaf ears of a non thinking public we have in this culture presently. 20,000 gulchers aren't going to get rand Paul elected. $200m fed to a media who put up phony smiling pics of a normally power hungry and vicious Hillary is more powerful TODAY than philosophical arguments. Before rationality comes to politics, the people have to start thinking, and that takes education that takes more time than before the next election. Bush , with his huge contributors and family cronyism connections is the next best chance to defeat Hillary. Look what his brother did to the country with Iraq and afghan wars. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. You really want a third bush if he defeats Hillary? Which I personally doubt.
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                        • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                          This is a discussion about Donald Trump's obscene promotion of eminent domain as
                          "wonderful" to seize other people's property. Unlike you, most of the country has been outraged over the Kelo decision that Trump supports. Trump is losing ground in the primary campaign over his increasingly revealed lack of substance. There is no basis for claiming he could defeat a Democrat a year from now, let along that is the only one who could. Your rambling lack of concern for private property rights does not address any of that. We will be discussing which of (most likely) only two candidates would do the least damage or whether it worth voting for either of them in a year. There is no excuse for gushing over Trump for what he is.
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                          • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                            I dont decide on things based on your mention of excuses. I make up my own mind. It is very early in the election cycle. I have said my favorites would be Rand Paul first, probably Trump second, and perhaps Ben Carson next.TThe rest of them arent going to make it anyway thru the primary. I just dont want Hillary or Sanders to win in nov 2016
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                            • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                              You switched your argument from gushing over Trump and dismissing the fundamental importance of private property rights against eminent domain abuse to rejecting Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. They are not an excuse to praise the fascistic Trump while dismissing his attacks on property rights, and Trump is not the only alternative in the election. He is a false alternative who should be identified and denounced for what he is.
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                              • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                                I think trump is the only one who could defeat the eventual dem candidate, tho
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                                • Posted by conscious1978 8 years, 6 months ago
                                  You really think no one but a corrupt crony, like Trump, can beat a criminal, a socialist, or a handsy creep? Time to re-evaluate based on a better interpretation of the facts.

                                  Trump is a poorly fabricated facade...yes, he would say I'm being mean to him, "bigly".
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
    Like I've been saying that indivdual is a straight up hands down left wing socialist corporatist fascist and if he were a girl would give Carly a run for the Democratic Nomination.
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    • Posted by MinorLiberator 8 years, 6 months ago
      I lived in NYC for 25 years when Trump was more local, and he was annoying then. All you need to do is look at his two supposed "empires": NYC real estate and NJ casinos to know he's had to be a crony capitalist and let's face it, borderline crook, to make that kind of money in those areas. Not to mention, the cronies being overwhelmingly Democrat. For all Carly's faults (if even true) at least she ran a great company that actually produced real things...
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      • Posted by TheRealBill 8 years, 6 months ago
        What company would that be? As someone who lived through her reign of arsehattery at HP, surely you don't mean the one she gutted and essentially ensured would fail. Which it has been doing. She did what she did at HP to pad her resume, not for improving the business. It shows in how it fared during and after she let Compaq buy HP with HP's money.

        Given his arrogance I'd expect Trump has has more effect and influence in his companies in their attempt to produce real things than Carly had on HP. The effect Carly had was to decrease it.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
          Another reason for Wasserman to back Carly and dump Hillary! For the left Hillary versus Carly would be perfect win win win.for Wasserman she can steer votes to Carly, get what DNC wants and continue to control as she does the RINOs now with a fresh clean slate.

          This notion has legs!!!

          I'm assuming you read the other posts on Wasserman's problem with the Hillary Bomb
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
      I can see you hate Trump, and you are entitled. BUT, he is not constrained by political correctness, he is a strong businessman who can stand up to other countries like our stupid and incompetent Obama cannot, and I really think he will NOT do deficit spending and maybe, just maybe, stop the slide of the dollar. 4 years of this would be fine with me, so he has my vote. Pretty much whatever he does that you might not like wouldnt be allowed by congress anyway, so I dont see the harm.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
        Get the word hate out of your speech I don't do racist, sexist or any of that hate speech crap. Why? I'm not a leftist. You are a left wing supporter so go ahead and make your case 'objectively' if that's possible. I think is a cop out. You either know and believe or your leaving yourself an escape hatch. No harm to me at all. I didn't publicly declare myself a supporter of evil ...and no you don't get no steenkin' leniency.

        Nor does your left wing socialist corporatist for sure fascist RINO hero.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
          I dont have a problem with you trying to be a super Objectivist. I am not a leftist, but I do recognize that an Objectivist is never going to be elected as president of the USA in 2016, given the state of the culture here. Your choice is to not vote at all, or probably get stuck with someone who is a lot worse than Trump. From a practical matter, I would rather slow down the decline than abstain. Its going to take too long for the population in this country to be even close to electing an Objectivist. By then I will be dead.
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
            Then you want the Devil's Advocate approach. In choosing Trump you well get it. Hasten the destruction hasten the day of starting over. But you want to spin it our and agonize.. OK! Not he best choice like Wasserman and Carly or Hillary and Hillary but it will serve my purpose just as well. For that you get thumbs up for destroying what's left but a thumbs down for taking so long about it. That however fits in with AR's policy on Selfishness Either way Viva La Revolucion!

            For the record if you support trump and the Republicans you are a supporter of government over people and ergo sum left wing. Just in the right wing of the left.
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            • Posted by MarkHunter 8 years, 6 months ago
              “... if you support Trump and the Republicans you are a supporter of government over people and ergo sum left wing. ...”

              Oh please. Setting aside that many aspects of Trump are absolutely good for the country, practically all of them are relatively good – that is, relative to his closest competitors.
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            • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
              If I wanted to really hasten the demise of socialism, I would vote for Sanders. He will do it quickest, but frankly I dont want to live through the day by day destruction like Dagny and Rearden did. If the 'destroyer' came today, I would shrug at this point if I had enough money to live on until the end of my life
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  • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 6 months ago
    It is clear that Trump likes to use eminent domain as a crony capitalist tool. I am not in favor of eminent domain, however it is important to understand that your property rights are not unlimited. For instance, if they were unlimited then the owners of a transcontinental railroad could force everyone to travel all the way to the coasts, jump on a boat around their track to go north or south of their track. This would be absurd and perversion of property rights. The railroad's property rights are due to having improved the land by putting a railroad on it. Those property rights do not extend to activities that do not reasonable interfere with the company's right to operate a railroad and cannot be used to impede reasonable travel across the tracks, which people were able to do before the railroad was built.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 6 months ago
    Trump is a self-motivated narcissist. He has no real values. Of course he supports whatever helps him get $ and power.

    He is disruptive to the campaign discussions, that may be the only value he provides to it.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 6 months ago
    What eminent domain reflects is a stagnant model of human society. Our continued adherence to a highly centralized population center system is medieval. With technology improvements, there is no reason we can't begin the change to a more distributed model of networked villages and distributed power systems. It's always been the mentality of an artificial need for big projects needing runaway land grabs that drive the desire for government confiscation of private property.

    Overcoming the medieval model of huge population centers won't be easy, with much capital at stake, and environmentalists screaming about wanting to contain the contagion that is humanity, so that it does as little damage to the wild countryside as possible. Agenda 21 only reinforces this defunct model, attempting to further compress the human population into ever larger rat warrens in the name of "efficiency".

    Trump's view is only natural, given the source of his wealth, dealing in conventional large, centralized real estate projects. I'm amused about all the moral indignation over his position, when our default societal model demands such invasion of individual rights.

    I'd bet that if Trump bought into the idea of a more rational distributed societal model, his view on eminent domain would be quite different. The challenge and the gamble involved would be hard for him to resist.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
      Once upon a time one could travel the dusty back roads of the nation and find a little store and gas station and cafe spread all over the land. They died when centralization started even in the midwest. I'll mention WalMart for their decentralization policies. I've run into them in the middle of nowhere but central to a very large population that used to host the smaller retailers. Some say they drive people out of business but I've also noticed those businesses were dying or had died already.

      McDonald's at one time the largest corporate landowner in the country went at it differently. They researched potential areas and bought enough land to put in a full shopping center and then sub leased the land back to the original owner often a farm on some lonely corner. Algona Iowa until they had a bridge built was this way. Waiting for the bridge to be built was McDonalds who had guessed correctly where the freeway would run.

      The rest followed.

      I see no other evidence of what DrZarkov99 has stated except freeways where every intersection is an excuse to build a new town.

      So...thumbs up on this one. It's time to leave the cities to the rats and live like human beings.

      Those of you from NEW Yark Ceetee to pun the Pace Picante Commercial will have not a clue but that can't be helped.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 6 months ago
    For term2: Old saying: "Hypocrisy is the homage
    that vice pays to virtue." When someone brazenly
    tramples all over individual rights, what have we
    got left?
    I didn't really think that Trump was a free-
    enterprise man, but I didn't know he would turn
    out to be as bad as this. Ayn Rand quite proper-
    ly condemned the notion that "Man's rights can-
    not be violated except for a good purpose."
    You either have a right to your property, or you
    do not. Eminent domain is a brazen violation of
    the rights of man. I am certainly not going to
    vote for Trump in the Republican primary.
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    • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
      Thankfully there has been a backlash against Trump for his promotion of eminent domain as "wonderful". His earlier demagoguery, nationalism, and narcissistic promotion of "deals" in place of individualistic principles of political philosophy should have tipped people off long ago as to what he is.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 8 years, 6 months ago
    Yah, I saw my husband watching that interview, (he's pro Trump), with the banner at the bottom of the TV screen: Trump: Eminent Domain "Wonderful". I told my husband that Trump was really showing his true colors.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
      The media hates Trump, so I dont even listen to them. They hate him because he says the emperor has no clothes, and doesnt care what people call him. We need that.
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      • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
        We are discussing what Trump said himself, not what the media says about him. Fox News simply asked him the question and he went off on his narcissist soap box about how "wonderful" he thinks eminent domain is.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
          A politically correct politician would say little so as not to be denigrated. At least trump tells us where he is at
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          • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
            Knowing what he is the basis for opposing Trump, not supporting him. Would you have supported Hitler because he openly announced what he was?
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            • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
              Great point. I would have appreciated that he was honest and picked up my marbles and gotten out of there. He told everyone what he was going to do and it was 100% bad. Trump is not anywhere close to being that bad, nor are any of the repub candidates. Hillary and sanders and Obama are the real evil doers in our time and they lie and tell us they are doing good for us. Hitler was more into exploiting the evil in Germans of that era
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              • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                You are supporting Trump with complete disregard for his anti-private property rights Pragmatism and much more. He is a demagogue manipulating people for a nationalist, anti-individualist fascistic power grab selling out anything for "deals" in the name of the "public good". He has no concern for the rights of the individual.

                You should read Leonard Peikoff's The Ominous Parallels, in which he describes how Hitler came to power as the compromise candidate appealing to both sides in a battle between ideological socialists and conservative nationalists. Both sides embraced altruist sacrifice to collectivism, which is what they got.
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                • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                  I would suggest that you think about how the other ccandidates deal with private property. Trump is no worse than any of them, and a lot better than most. Bottom of the pile are Sanders and Hillary. I have been ravaged all my life by politicians ignoring my private property rights, and I am DONE with it being done behind the scenes by career politicians. I want a NON-politician for a change who will tell us whats happening, for good or worse. On that note, I have more respect for Sanders than Hillary. At least he says what he is going to do. So did Hitler, by the way. Our politicians talk one way and do quite another, and I am tired of it.
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                  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
                    We have all thought about the range of current candidates and don't need your suggestion. However bad on property rights some of them are, none of them has enthusiastically promoted taking private property as "wonderful". They at least have enough sense to know that Americans still respect private property rights. Trump's boastful announcement that he does not is not a reason to support him and does not make him better than all the rest. When someone admits, let alone boasts, that he rejects your rights, you don't say, "Oh, ok, you admit it so now I can support you. You plead guilty so you are exempt from punishment for the crime".
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                    • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
                      I won't make any suggestions. I am only voicing my assessment, which I suppose is politically incorrect in this forum. My single vote isn't worth anything anyway so I should not bother spending time engaging in analysis with other intelligent people. None of the candidates currently electable respect private property so perhaps the true objectivist approach should be to ignore this election altogether and let whatever happens happen.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 6 months ago
    Yeah. He's used it. Well, he paid officials to use it so he can make more money. Probably, as far as the bottom line is concerned, it's a great investment. However...it's not really what the founding fathers had in mind, is it?
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    • Posted by khalling 8 years, 6 months ago
      no, abaco. That does not mean Capitalism and bsiness are immoral. It just means govt mixed up with business is. Govt is essential. it is not benevolent and it WILL encroach, unless you "madam, can keep it" [liberty]
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 6 months ago
        Oh, I'm with you. It's a bastardization of capitalism. I've heard it called "corporatism" or "crapitalism". I don't agree with it and don't take part in it.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
          Corporatism is gathering together in a group to invest time, money, effort in some goa to make some personal gain.

          Crapitalism is something like the 'facilities', the 'loo' the WC. Where everyone's involved in odiforous effluent ejecta or giving back.

          Congress is a combination of the two.

          Government is the result

          It doesn't get that bad until After the talking head spin shows and vomitus ejecta is added to the mix.
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    • Posted by MarkHunter 8 years, 6 months ago
      He has tried to use eminent domain, three times. Fortunately he failed in the courts. (Of course that doesn't excuse him for trying, or disrupting the lives of those who had to take him to court.)

      But again, his plans for reigning in gun control and other Leftist causes outweigh this major mistake.
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      • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
        He has by his own admission exploited eminent domain to take what he wants many times. He failed against the old woman in Atlantic City and still insists he should have gotten it. He openly promotes the infamous Kelo decision expanding eminent domain authority. He not only takes people's property without conscience, he viciously insults and trashes his victims. He is a fascistic unprincipled Pragmatist on principle. It is terribly anti-intellectual to think that he would do good "despite mistakes". He has told us what he is.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, the idea was that the constitution protects us from the excesses of government perpetrated by socialism corruption and cronyism- leaving the role of president as an effective administrator and "head of the armed forced". At least as I understand it.

    If one looks back at the actual elections- what did we get? Exactly the same philosophical corruptions you are identifying now. The winners all had terrible traits in one way or another, reflecting philosophical weaknesses or cronyism of their supporters. So if you say I have a low estimate of politics today, you are indeed correct, and I think I am correctly identifying how things are

    How did Ron Paul do in his candidacy? Zero chance at election. How about rand Paul? Farthest either gets is congress. Imagine how far ayn rand would get today? Even libertarian candidates for president? Zero chance for election today.

    I would say even trump has a slim chance of beating one of the democrats, but the other republican candidates have far less chances. Look at obamas election- twice !! He is an arrogant socialist who has us in two useless wars, has nearly bankrupted our dollar, presided over an out of control NSA, took over medical care without even reading the bill and flat out lying about it. What does that tell you about politics today? I am thinking Obama could be re elected AGAIN if he could run.

    Trump's popularity is that he is a non politician , not part of the political establishment. He is not strangled by political correctness, and he is a successful businessman. Those things "might" get him a total of 271 ( I think that's the number) of the electoral college votes needed. It's a longer way off yet, but I just don't see any others of the current crop of repub candidates doing that
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
    THIS is definitely a RINO Thread. They all came out to play. So the RINOs are endorsing two of the Government Party Candidates for President. Meanwhile the left wing of the left is trying to defuze and refuse the Hillary Bomb with four choices. If you were D. Wasserman would choose

    a. Settle For Hillary and lose all control of DNC
    b. Bernie? Whose tie really is red the color of international socialism.
    c. Biden - controllable when he isn't out of control but always good for a sexist laugh.
    d. Kerry who isn't female and it's there turn and has a lot of dirty baggage himself. Also hard to control.

    OR

    do you take Choice Five and/or Six and quietly pull support from whomever for the left wing candidate and shift support to right wing of the left wing candidate?

    That would be Trump or Fiorino. Both RINO meaning both Democrats and Carly has admitted it.

    Both destroyers and looters

    One easy to control the other who can't decide where to aim or when to quit shooting

    ONE female

    ONE acceptable to the full time leftists

    I'm betting she'll back a loser for the Demo candidate and a winner for the Dumbo candidate and what the hell - she controls both of them anyway.

    Unless this Freedom Coalition thing gathers momentum.....

    But it won't as long as you all righteous debaters can't get your act together. Operative words are 'act' and 'together'

    One of the reasons Wasserman has so much power. There is no real competition.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 6 months ago
    It's one thing to build something society as a whole needs or desires; it's another to build a building for your own profit.
    I don't think the profit of an individual takes precedence over the property of another and even in the case of a 'Highway', the price of taking someone's property should be a heavy one.
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    • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
      The "needs or desires" of the collective "as a whole" is not justified. An individual who takes others' property is a thief. The notion of the "collective" doing it is a thousand times worse, elevating theft to a collectivist principle of political philosophy. Trump's endorsement and imposition of eminent domain for the "public good" is more corrupt than his unethical business practices.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 6 months ago
        I get that, and as I stated, the price should be a heavy one, meaning it should be voluntary but the process should favor those that wish not to participate...property is sacrosanct. I mistakenly used the word, 'Taking'.
        Believe it or not, that idea is something our biblical ancestors learned; but that is a different story.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 6 months ago
    I didn't think Trump could actually say something that dumb. That's where "speaking off the top of your head" means not using your head.
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    • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
      But he is "using his head". It's what he believes. Evil is much more dangerous than dumb.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 6 months ago
        So...it's your opinion that Trump is evil?
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        • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
          Yes. Look at the way he attacks other people's property rights then publicly smears the victims. "The Widow and Eminent Domain" http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts...

          It is fully in accord with his blowhard campaign of personal smears and Pragmatist disregard for principles subjugated to "deals". He's not the only such power seeker in politics (or elsewhere), but it's frightening that he has been able to emotionally manipulate so many people to support him in a presidential campaign. People are thoroughly frustrated with politicians but don't understand the principles necessary to put the country back on track.
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  • Posted by RobertFl 8 years, 6 months ago
    I'm not sure how I feel about this. I understand the purpose of it, but, we know its use is driven by corporate interest and not public need.

    I feel the Historical Societies need to declare any building over 50 years old historical and needing preserving is wrong. Or them telling you what color you can and can't paint your historical house because it isn't a period color.
    When you pay the taxes on it,you can paint it any color you like.

    Where's the line between preserving the past, progress and property rights?
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    • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
      The "line" between preservationism and property rights is on the other side of property rights, which come first and only. There is no "balance".

      Trump has not been talking about eminent domain for preservationism, but has endorsed the general principle of forcing people to give up their private property for the so-called "public good". He may not even know that the National Park Service, as well as other agencies at all levels of government, have for a century been using eminent domain extensively to ruthlessly seize private property for wilderness, recreational and historical areas, but he has tipped us off about what he would do with traditional government power once in office as he parades his abuse in the name of the "public good".
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      • Posted by RobertFl 8 years, 6 months ago
        But, if we were talking "public good" for a roadway, then why is this bad?
        I believe this was the original intent of Eminent Domain.
        I think the problem is, ED had no scope to its reach.

        Should Trump be able to use ED to force that lady out of her house for the casino? No. But,she should have taken the money and ran.
        Should ED be used to kick someone out of their house for a park? No. Maybe provide for the gov't getting right to first refusal should the owner wish to sell.
        Should ED be used for roads, damn, etc. I'd say there's a case there.
        I can't imagine the Interstate being built around peoples houses that refused to budge.
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        • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
          What you can or cannot imagine about what projects are possible when people refuse to give up their property is irrelevant. The notion of a superior "pubic good" means that the rights of the individual are sacrificed to the collective. Denouncing statism and tribalism does not mean that roads are bad.

          You don't get to tell other people they should "take the money and run". The owner of the home in Atlantic City chose not to sell it and refused Trump's higher offers because they were irrelevant to her. You don't decide that.

          Seizing a "right of first refusal" is a seizure of private property rights to sell to whomever one chooses at the price agreed on without government obstruction driving potential buyers away and driving down the market value. There is a long history of this abuse with broken promises and arrogant muscling of property owners because government was allowed to assume privileges over other people's property.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
    At least he admits he plays by the rules that our government sets. There shouldnt be eminent domain at all, and if there wasnt, no one could use it to become richer. Cities are the worst offenders actually. I like that Trump is honest about this stuff. He says he buys off politicians and then expects favors- everyone knows this happens but he says he does it as long and the system permits- right out there on national TV. I want that kind of honesty on the part of our leaders so that the subject comes up and people can vote it down.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
      Not looking for 'at least' that's another way of saying not 'as evil.' It's a Nuremberg Defense. Admitting guilt and asking for clemency. Is it honesty or arrogance? He just admitted to being a RINO. You need to learn BOHICA when you get what you asked for the meaning will be painfully obvious
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      • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
        I am not saying Trump is a philosophically correct Objectivist or even a libertarian. None of the candidates are. Some are better than others. BUT, given the choices we have for the next 4 years as president , I think its wise to pick the least bad.

        I would say Rand Paul is the least bad, but he is not electable in this majority rules culture. Ben Carson is probably the next least bad, although the religiosity kind of bothers me (I dont know what his "god" is going to secretly tell him to do). Trump is the next in line, who at least brings up the subjects that our populace needs to really think about (no one else does that). Our culture has degenerated very far into non-thinking and socialism. If the people are going to eventually embrace freedom and private property, they have to start thinking and this debate will help with that. Its going to take a long time I suspect. The Trumps and Snowdens help a lot to keep the secret operations of government from getting out.

        For THAT reason, I am going to vote in the order above for whoever makes to the general election. The rest of the group are either idiots or religious zealots. The democratic ones are total jokes.
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  • Posted by MarkHunter 8 years, 6 months ago
    The following is by Michael Stuart Kelly, referring to Trump’s recent interview with Bret Baier:

    Trump said he supported eminent domain and the Kelo decision. I do not agree with Trump on this, but ...

    1. ...

    2. Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, and these kinds of people who he is surrounding himself with are going to straighten him out over time ... ;

    3. Eminent domain is a minor issue when compared to Trump's [stand] on immigration, health care, veterans, jobs creation, foreign policy, overhauling the tax system, abolishing regulations,...;

    4. ... Trump's frank answer is an indication that we will always know where he stands (he knows this view is not popular with the people who support him); and

    5. I do not expect Trump to be perfectly aligned with all my values. He's got the big ones nailed, though.

    [All] that makes this not a deal-killer to me. ...
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    • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
      Eminent domain is not a minor problem for those abused by it. This is not a matter of not being "perfectly aligned". The man is an anti-private property rights nationalist. He is also a demagogue, manipulating people with outrageous statements while avoiding any statement of principle and policy that any individualist requires. It is too late and too fundamental to expect him to be reformed by "Sarah Palin" and "Mark Levin". Mark Levin is himself an apologist for Trump, pretending that he is not responsible for his unethical use and public promotion of eminent domain. Levin claimed that companies that he has no control over are doing it in his name. This is a farce. Trump has been all over national and international TV for years openly promoting and boasting of his eminent domain.

      The viro movement is pushing for government acquisition of private property on a massive scale right now. They are demanding a perpetual entitlement of a billion dollars every year for acquisition of private property. They refuse to consider eliminating eminent domain as a restriction on the funding. This is not a "minor" problem.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
      On the negative side
      1. Republican RINO
      2. Left Wing socialist corporatist
      3. Establishment
      4. Looter
      5. your item 3. he'll say anything panderer
      6. Lightly taped - for the moment - easily erased on #5 I seen zero values in the dude except "ME."
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        Posted by MarkHunter 8 years, 6 months ago
        Most people on GGO are Republicans In Name Only. Republican is better than Democrat only until something better comes along.

        Trump’s policies aren’t left wing. Leftists love open immigration more than anything, Trump says he would curtail immigration. Leftists love regulations, Trump says he would cancel 90% of them. Lefts love gun control, he supports the 2nd amendment. One could go on.

        Trump may be a plutocrat but he’s going against the plutocrat Establishment. He’s lost a lot of plutocrat friends for doing it. That he’s had to bribe politicians to get something built is the fault of government. (Edison wined and dine politicians in order to get them to approve his building electric power stations.)

        Trump is a producer rather than a looter. It’s too bad he tried to use eminent domain three times. (He failed in the courts each time, but still he tried.) His virtues more than counterbalance this.

        He speaks forthrightly. He’s less politically correct than any other candidate.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
          Couldn't have proved it by me. I don't vote left wing fascist nor do I support their two parties nor their trumpet boy and his trumpettes

          Of course I don't mind using them.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
      I agree totally with your points 3,4,5. Not so much with how Sarah Palin is going to straighten him out- she could use a bit of straightening out actually.

      Trump has my vote. He is so much more honest than all the rest of the candidates (perhaps Rand Paul would be my first choice, but he isnt going to make it to the general election) its refreshing and we need 4 years of that.

      Ben Carson is too quiet and I doubt he will make it to the general election.
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  • Posted by Witt84z 8 years, 6 months ago
    I understand his frustration. However, eminent domain is wrong. He and his project team may be required to go out of their way or pay more than is fair for the land but that does not justify eminent domain. I will say to Donald Trump, try harder to get the last hold out. Where there is a will there is a way. Everything is for sale for the right compensation.
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    • Posted by ewv 8 years, 6 months ago
      Everything is not for sale. The old lady in Atlantic City NJ whose home he tried to take for a parking lot when she refused a (rare) offer many times the market value sued him and won.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
      Exactly. But the government gives him the power to just take it from landowners. Its the fault of the government, not the people who use the law to their benefit. One could say Trump should just stand on principle and NOT use eminent domain IF he was a libertarian or Objectivist. But he isnt either of those. He will be good for the country for the next 4 years however I think, as he will bring these issues up to public scrutiny and WE can decide- just like Snowden did. Thats why the establishment hates Trump.
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      • Posted by Witt84z 8 years, 6 months ago
        I agree. He will make do some things we don't like however IMHO the good will well out way the bad. I'm not throwing the baby out with the bath water over eminent domain. He is still a candidate I will consider.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
          The more he is politically incorrect and brings things our that should be considered, I say thats a good thing a president can do. He will also let us stand tall to other countries and not do what Obama has done. Tell me if the emperor has no clothes so I have something to think about out in the open. Who else talks about eminent domain or the trade relations with china or mexico, or immigration. He has my vote for 4 years anyway. After that, we will see.
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