Statins: Heart disease drug speeds up aging process, warns new Tulane University research study.

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STATINS make regular users become older faster, leaving them open to long-term mental and physical decline, according to disturbing new research.

"The new research by scientists at Tulane University in New Orleans has reignited the debate about statin side effects which many doctors say have been played down.

They include memory loss, muscle pain, diabetes, cataracts, liver dysfunction, diabetes, fatigue and memory loss.


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Millions of Britons currently take statins to combat the risks of heart attacks

Professor Reza Izadpanah, a stem cell biologist and lead author of the research published in the American Journal of Physiology, said: “Our study shows statins may speed up the ageing process. "
SOURCE URL: http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/608210/statins-age-you-faster-new-research-suggests-long-term-use-warning


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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 7 months ago
    I've been taking statins for 15 years. I have noticed that the aging process speeds up the aging process. Of course, you can stop the statins and increase the risk of a heart attack. If your heart gives out, you've Really stopped the aging process in its tracks.
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    • Posted by $ Suzanne43 8 years, 7 months ago
      Me, too. My cardiologist loves them...wishes that he could put them in the water supply. I think that I will just get on with my life....eat in moderation and enjoy McDonald's fries and hamburgers and then eventually die. Isn't that what Obama wants for us older people to do sooner than later.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 7 months ago
        Actually, I'm enjoying my old age. Luckily, I'm pretty financially secure and enjoying life, except for the fact that my body is falling apart in increments.
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        • Posted by $ Suzanne43 8 years, 7 months ago
          Ditto! I walk a lot. That helps me to fall apart at a slower rate.
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          • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 6 months ago
            Funny all y'all should mention it... I began to read about the downsides of statins some year or so ago and kept putting off beating up my GP to get a recommendation or guidance from him

            In the past two years, with bariatric surgery, I've changed my diet (less red meat, etc.) and shed 135 pounds or so, and my cholesterol levels have come down into the "excellent" range.

            So I finally saw the doc and watched him weasel-word out of actually SAYING "stop taking them".... why not say that? Potential liability, of course.

            When I finally phrased it something like (if I stop taking them, do I need to wean myself or can I just stop) he finally said that there should be no bad side-effects from stopping cold-turkey.

            Which I did that night. No major side effects visible yet. Time will tell. but it's nice to at least get off ONE potentially hazardous med.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 8 years, 7 months ago
    My total cholesterol was 230 (which is not bad), started statins and got it down to 176. Had a hard time getting up in the mornings, very stiff and sore. Got off statins, minimized my carbohydrates drastically and a year later my total cholesterol was 186 and has not crossed 200. As a guy pointed out, "If statins are making your large muscles so sore and stiff, what do you think it's doing to your heart muscle.?" And I lost 48 pounds.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 7 months ago
      48 lbs - that's a load of stress off your heart.
      Well done, jjj.
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      • Posted by jimjamesjames 8 years, 7 months ago
        Thanks. Here's something I've "learned" over the years but never "knew" until I paid attention and started living by it: Refined carbs are like cocaine. You get a quick high in blood sugar, and then comes the crash and your body craves more. Zero carbs, your pancreas can manage your blood sugar without ups and downs, therefore, no cravings. Since I now know that and live by it, eating is no longer a problem.
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  • Posted by Flootus5 8 years, 7 months ago
    Fellow Gulchers; I am amazed and pleased at the honest input on this. Now we know much more who are the geezers amongst us. I am reaching geezerness too, but geezerness is a truly relative thing. May the young folk be patient.

    It is scary to contemplate the role that bad information has played in the health arena. Genetics, mental outlook are important factors, but flat out bad, wrong information like the federal food pyramid and bogus medical/pharmaceutical "research" is horrendous in these matters. We are of the generation(s) that as kids played out doors for hours, ate eggs (cholesterol, oh no!), lavishly applied butter (saturated fats, oh no!), ate red meat, and were thin as a rail into adulthood.

    And then the feds and the AMA stepped in with their federal food pyramid, their cholesterol and blood pressure scares, triglycerides, bad HDL and then oh! good HDL. And we end up with adults on horrendous cocktail mixes of expensive prescriptions with side effects and medications for side effects and then with 12 year old kids that can hardly get off the couch and waddle outdoors!

    The feds and their sanctioned medical monopolies! This can't be this screwed up just by accident.
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    • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 7 months ago
      Buy me a beer and I'll tell you what I learned about vaccines. The most-administered, least-understood medical product ever.
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      • Posted by Flootus5 8 years, 7 months ago
        At least in cyber space you can have a cyber beer in the morning! Have at.

        I avoid vaccines like the plague. I don't have kids, so haven't had to deal with that whole thing from that angle. But, I keep hearing that the vaccine/autism link has been thoroughly debunked. Quickly followed by the disparagement of vaccine conspiracy believers as kooks, nuts, and the fringe element.

        Sounds an awful lot like the "science is settled" argument.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago
    So I tried to google up what this means vis a vis a my medications for the same thing namely metoprolol and chlorthalidone. Nothing but BS. A simple yes or no they are or aren't statins would have sufficed.

    For the record I'm routinely figured for 15 to 20 years younger than my true age even after using Just For Men in Grey. Sounds like another rogaine ad to me.
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    • Posted by skidance 8 years, 7 months ago
      Metoprolol is a beta-blocker, not a statin. I'm not familiar with the other medication you mentioned.
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      • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 7 months ago
        Chlorthalidone is a diuretic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorta...

        The purpose of statins is to lower the amount of cholesterol in the blood. But, as of this year, the medical community is (at last) revising its image of the role of cholesterol, which was based on a flawed survey done in the 1950's by Ancel Keys. So, if you are taking statins, you are taking something to lower a substance (cholesterol) in your blood that may have no correlation with heart disease. There may be some ancillary benefits to statins, but you need to think about this and discuss it with your doctor. Warning: Most doctors were raised and trained during the era of Cholesterol is Satan, so you probably need to do some groundwork if this conversation is to go well.

        I always look stuff up before I take it (or give it to my dogs).

        Jan
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  • Posted by GaryL 8 years, 7 months ago
    This is the most disturbing news I have read here! Thank you. I've been on a daily dose of simvastatin ever since I had a stent installed 7 years ago. Every day I wake up wondering which joint will hurt the most and I avoid many of the activities I love because everything hurts. Now I have no idea what to do because the cardiologist says I need the statin.
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    • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 7 months ago
      GaryL -

      Please see my comment above. If the negative side effects of statins are limiting your life, you really need to take charge of whether or not you continue your prescription.

      Jan
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      • Posted by GaryL 8 years, 7 months ago
        Thank you Jan. I have always been fit, trim and very active enjoying hunting, fishing, off road motorcycling and mountain biking, kayaking and numerous other outdoor activities. I honestly believed I had Lyme disease from numerous tick bites but test show negative. I was perplexed about why for the past 2 years every joint in my body was subject to pain on any given day when it never was before. At age 63 and trying to enjoy retirement it is very easy for the doctor to pass it off as aging and arthritis but I have to think now that statins are not as great as touted. I will be discussing this with my GP very soon.
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        • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 7 months ago
          We are of similar ages, and I too am quite focused on maintaining my level of physical activity.

          There is no good news about the detection of Lyme disease: the spirochetes are sparse and, even using the most sensitive technologies available, they are difficult to find (eg 30% - 50% correct detection rate). There is a new test that uses antigen-capture on a urine specimen, since bits of the membrane of Borrelia are shed into the urine. I think this is a reasonably priced test (in comparison to the other high tech Lyme tests) and it has come up with some positives that the other methodologies have missed. You might ask about it. If you have not had an aggressive antibiotic therapy targeted at Borrelia during the last 2 years, you might discuss this with your GP too. Maybe the best path is to assume that you have it and then try to get rid of the damn spirochete.

          Good luck.

          Jan
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    • Posted by $ TomB666 8 years, 7 months ago
      RE: The pain

      Woman wakes up one morning and says “good morning” to her husband, who replies “I'm dead.” She says “WHAT?” and he repeats “I'm dead”. She says “You can't be dead, you're talking to me! What makes you think you're dead?” He replies “I seem to be awake, but nothing hurts.”
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 7 months ago
    Neuropathy, myopathy, and immune system shutdown. Drs. have tried three different statins on me and I've had severe problems. I still have numbness in feet and finger tips and strong joint pain. The scariest part for me was a sudden onset of opportunistic infections.

    Pay attention to what those study readers try to do to you. Too many Drs. and PAs. practice medicine by rote directions and pharmaceutical studies. How many studies have we seen in the last 2 or 3 years that turned out to be total BS or had bad results hidden?
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  • Posted by Wifezilla 8 years, 7 months ago
    I strongly suggest anyone prescribed a statin to check out the website www.spacedoc.net. It's authored by a NASA flight surgeon that was given a statin and suffered serious muscle weakness and amnesia.

    Besides, if people would reduce their carbohydrate/sugar/starch intake, their cardiovascular disease risks would drop so they wouldn't need a statin.
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    • Posted by kddr22 8 years, 6 months ago
      though doing a carb free or paleo style diet can reduce your risk there is a genetic factor as well. CoQ10 is a very helpful additive as mentioned above for the muscle symptoms as it bypasses the block
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago
    This is what happens when allopathic creatures try to 'Do For The Body' instead of 'Helping the Body do for itself'. They are only concerned about the symptoms of disease but not the causes of those symptoms thereby creating new diseases.
    The only side effects to working With the body, giving the body what it needs to avoid disease or to heal itself is eradication of all disease.
    The very best way to start this process is to eat, exercise and live right for YOUR body type and blood type. It is simply a place to start and a place inwhich all other measures be judged by.

    It's just plain ole common sense.
    right4yourtype.com

    Just say NO to prescription drugs!
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    • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 7 months ago
      Olduglycarl -

      I am a medical technologist, and for 17 years my job included crossmatching units of blood for transfusions. As a result of this, and of an interest in genetics, I have studied the immunology of blood types in fair depth. There are some statistically significant differences in response to disease and in predilection to certain disorders (eg gastric) per blood type. But I have yet to see a valid study of eating or lifesyle correlated positively with blood type (most of what I have read on this topic I would feel generous labeling as BS).

      If you know of such a study, please send it to me.

      Medications, prescription or otherwise, are tools, the same way a hammer or a screwdriver is. You have to know how to use them, but once you do your ability to make changes to your environment is vastly enhanced. So do not disregard prescription meds...and herbal meds are just less pure and regulated OTC versions thereof.

      Jan
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      • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years, 7 months ago
        I agree, Jan. Remember that all therapeutic drug regimens are a "trial". Every human is unique and treatment should be adjusted for the individual.
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        • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 7 months ago
          Yes. Me an acetaminophen do not get along, for example. And while I have the SNP that is supposed to quickly metabolize caffeine, I do not do so.

          Have you had genomic analysis done? It is quite interesting.

          Jan
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          • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years, 7 months ago
            The only thing I've had done is I had genetic testing done specifically about gluten intolerance. I have 2 genes for gluten sensitivity, so I now avoid gluten. It's a pain, but it helped to have evidence that I should do it.
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            • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 7 months ago
              I have voluntarily gone in that direction, though my genetics are OK for gluten (NB. Jan, remember to doublecheck this). There is just a lot of anecdotal data on the increase in Crohn's disease and general gastric problems in our current culture.

              I have a great recipe for Paleo-breakfast-bars, if you are interested.

              Jan
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago
        The very best book on the subject is "live right for your type" also his work on genotype and later work on epigentics. All by Dr. DaDamo of right4yourtype.com
        He gives many resources and an illuminating history of Bloodtype thought and an anthropological history of the 4 bloodtypes.

        Literally millions have engaged this body of work and have benefited.

        As I stated...It's the place inwhich we start and consider before we start messing with the nature of the 4 human blood types.
        I call it in my book: The Prime Law of human health.
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        • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 7 months ago
          I fear that you and I will have to disagree. I read part of the book, and did not regard it as science.

          Jan
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago
            That's cause 'Science' doesn't come from a practical point of view nor does it observe in practical applications...all that usually comes after science has formulated it's opinion.

            I say to you...try it, apply it and note the blood types your working with and then collect the data.

            Oh, and finish reading the book, the one's I mentioned are prime.
            You can always ask him questions, then take it to task.
            This process is total integration of data, what I call in my book: Wide Scope Accountability.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 7 months ago
    Put down the cheeseburger. I know so many people who take statins yet eat plenty of beef, cheese and pizza. They eat whatever they want. Given what we've known for a while about statins that just didn't make sense to me.

    There's another possible risk with their use - onset of type II diabetes.

    However, I suspect that this story will disappear quickly and, yes, statins will be added to municipal drinking water systems.
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