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  • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Here's a quote on the history between Walmart and Rubbermaid.

    "History has shown that suppliers suffer if they run afoul of Wal-Mart. Rubbermaid raised the prices it charged Wal-Mart in the mid-1990s because of an 80% jump in the cost of a key ingredient in its plastic containers. The retailer responded by giving more shelf space to lower-priced competitors, helping drive Rubbermaid into a 1999 merger with rival Newell, says John Mariotti, a former Rubbermaid executive. "Rubbermaid earned Wal-Mart's wrath by not giving it the best deal," he says."

    There are many other company's that have run afoul of Walmart.

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  • Posted by Argo 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed it hasn't. But as I stated before that is where the most savings can come from because that is the largest cost factor, not labor.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Mine as well (DfSS MBB), and what you describe does not reduce the material in the product. That takes redesign. Even changing the shipping containers, dunnage, storage containers, consumables takes considerable redesign.
    Rarely has hidden material costs been the rationale for moving production to low labor cost countries, which is where this started.
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  • Posted by brs02 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So you believe in the free market, but support the "living wage" campaign the left is using to divert attention from their numerous failings and scandals. Why wasn't this a campaign issue the first or second round for Zero? Because they don;t really care, it is a Red Herring.
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  • Posted by Argo 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To the contrary, the implementation of a Lean Operating System can effectively drive down material costs by removing the inherent waste in the processing of a product. Ford did an analysis a number of years back asking the question how many pounds of material does it take to make a 2,500 lb car. The answer they found was 50,000 pounds! Believe me because it is my business!
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    take a look at the farm bill. very little of that figure goes to the farmer. mostly it pays for food stamps for people who believe they are owed them just because they are special.

    the part that does go to farm industries can be split between dairy product producers (the next step or two above farmer) and processing centers that are to labor intensive to ever be profitable, except the health of the nation requires OJ in the winter. the family (and large operation) farmers get very, very little of that entire amount.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And wait until your skillset becomes out of date, or sickness strikes and you are forced out of the loop for a year or two. Then as you restart your life you discover that telling the rest of the world that you are far beyond it's influence is just not a valid response.

    Every industry is subject to business cycles. That's a fact of life. Scat may bot like that, may refuse to even acknowledge it's true, but time breaks down mountains too.

    Been there, done that.
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  • Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are in a career that has thus far been untouched by wage lowering schemes. You are very fortunate. Wait until they finish importing people in your occupation or start moving your job overseas. I don't have anything against free trade that isn't designed to destroy labor.
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  • Posted by Scatcatpdx 11 years, 2 months ago
    I am a technician in lab the designs motherboards that will be made in China. I would with engineers in Oregon, India and Japan. It a global economy yet there still good jobs because free trade. Because of free trade I can afford new clothing when a piece wears out I can replace it unlike my made only in America forefather who bough second hand or patched it up.
    Dear factory you can stay closed I have a better safer and higher paying job without you and nobody can tell me differently. It call freedom in America, deal with it . Excuse me I need to pick something up at Walmart.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, but once a product is designed, it is difficult to take out much of the material costs. It is, however, rather easy to redesign processes and/or add capital equipment to reduce the labor content. Believe me, it is my business.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are correct....they also, through their low pricing, provide a higher standard of living than would otherwise be possible without them. This is a fact that gets overlooked when people start pissing and moaning about Wal-mart and all the small businesses that they replaced. It is a fact that "main street" has been diminished by Wal-mart, but I can buy a shirt at Wal-mart for $15.00 that used to cost $30.00 at the mom and pop store on Main Street.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The fact that WalMart made this ad makes perfect sense to me. WalMart is non-union and it was the unions that drove many of our jobs away.
    I will tell you a fact...WalMart is the largest employer in my town...period! Without it, many, many more people would be on Food Stamps and Welfare.
    They may not be perfect, but they're successful and they ARE helping the local economy.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No. Even if the other guy has a tariff against you, it is still in your self-interest to have an open door. Not only is it morally asserted, game theory shows it to be mathematically true. (RobertF wrote: "... then YES, we slap their goods with a tariff.") We versus They is collectivism, which is easy to invalidate.

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  • Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Did Rubbermaid go out of business? I purchased a trash can at Home Depot made in America, by them.
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  • Posted by barwick11 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    HA! Ok d-bag, whatever... You want to call me names, go for it. Regardless, you *make no sense* in what you write. Your words, how you put them together, do not form a coherent thought that another human being can understand.

    When you can write your words so they make sense and I can understand what you are trying to say, then I will respond. Try punctuation for a start... take for example "Yours is the mentality of the people that want to profit off of nothing like welfare sponges you both claim the right to profit off of someone else by not adding value of your own"

    Put some punctuation in there, maybe add a few words, I'll re-read it, and maybe it will make more sense.

    Not only that, what I kinda somewhat sorta think what you are *trying* to say, has no relevance to what I said in the first place.
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  • Posted by Argo 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You have no argument from me that China should be competing on a level playing field
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  • Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You already did fly off on a rant when you addressed me. If you are gonna dish it out you better be able to take it. Should I call you a slave trader?
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  • Posted by barwick11 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Again, you make zero sense. You have the gall to call me a crony capitalist because I would have no problem paying someone halfway across the world to do a job (so long as they can do it well)? I'm going to assume you didn't mean it like that and give you the benefit of the doubt before I fly off on a rant.
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