Carly Fiorina's suports Common Core, believes in anthropomorphic climate change, and supports immigration amnesty.

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Carly Fiorina on Immigration: Pass the DREAM Act. For other undocumented immigrants, a direct path to citizenship is unfair. While running for the U.S. Senate in California in 2010, Fiorina said she supports the DREAM Act, which would give legal status to people who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/carly-fio...

Carly Fiorina on Climate change: It is real and manmade. But government has limited ability to address it. Speaking in New Hampshire in February, Fiorina said there is scientific consensus that climate change is real and caused by humans.
http://www.c-span.org/video/?324350-1...

Carly Fiorina on Education: Supports Common Core – Set national standards but give local districts maximum control. No Child Left Behind was positive. In a position paper while running for the U.S. Senate in California, Fiorina
http://www.carlyforca.com/downloads/C...


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    Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 8 months ago
    Ask me about her in 6 months.
    All the political preening at such an early date has me somewhat nauseated. We have become a nation of hurry-up and wait. We've hurried into the Presidential campaign 6 months too early which may set a precedent for other events. Halloween preparations in January, Christmas preparations in March, etc. I suspect that the political deck will be reshuffled in 6 months and look quite different than today. Only one caution: Don't look for perfection. None of them, with the exception of Rand Paul, are even close.
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    • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 8 months ago
      ... and I don't include Rand Paul in my list for that, either... He can ask me why any time, and for all the "remove" emails I've sent him in reply to his requests for $upport, and gotten no replies from him or his minions....
      Well, that tells me something, too...

      Good luck to us all...
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      • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 8 months ago
        I probably should have said "in the ballpark" instead of "coming close." He does espouse some good libertarian views, especially when it comes to involvements in war. Of course, there's always "of two evils choose the lesser." Comparing the Republican motley crew to any of the Dems, they become the lesser evil.
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        • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago
          Evil tightens the chains destroying our liberty. Don't underestimate the power of the dark side.
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          • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 8 months ago
            I was born into the "Dark Side." My parents were both libs, big supporters of FDR and Truman. So was I. Then I picked up a soft cover copy of "The Fountainhead." I liked the title. I was hooked from the first sentence. It started me thinking. At age 14 I used my paper route $$ to buy 2 more copies so I could tear out Roark's speech and tape it to my bedroom wall. Whenever I felt the world was totally insane, I'd stand in front of my "Roark Wall" and re-read it. I started questioning my father. However, he already thought I was crazy because I went to a high school 5 miles away in order to get into their music department when I lived one block away from another high school.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
          Only for the non-objectivist. For us there are three choices to any question. Right Compromise and Wrong making a total of two wrong and one right choice. Those who choose evil are themselves supporters of evil the degree of which does not excuse the guilt. Right Wrong and Wrong. It's still the same government party the same RINO Democrat in Reality you are choosing. That's a personal decision. That's cross to bear and you who must take the blame. Ever wonder why as things get worse it's hard to find anyone who voted for Obama or Bush or Clinton etc. That's the wonderful thing about the secret ballot. Pretty soon the pollsters and the poll watchers were to blame.
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          • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 8 months ago
            The Republican Party as it was imagined by its founders never really existed. Just as Capitalism as put forth by Rand never existed (the UNKNOWN Ideal). It has ever been the lesser of two or more evils. Refraining from participation is like the driver of a car turning the steering over to a guy in the back seat. So far, the grandiose promise of a "free" country as proposed by the founders has deteriorated, bit by bit, inch by inch as more and more of the leftists, and the moochers, and the mooching leftists moved in and the men of integrity melted away. Now, a spark has been ignited. Whether through an upsurge in conservatism, or the influence of talk shows on the radio, I'm not sure. So far it has been a candle flame in the wind, but it is starting to ignite some significant numbers. Perhaps this bodes well, but it has a very long way to go before it marches down the path toward the true freedom of Capitalism and all that it stands for.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
        As I suspected from the beginning I'm not looking for any member of the Republican Party they are to far left and in bed with the DNC. Any that showed any chance of moving up are being sidelined. Arf Arf Arf give the lapdogs a Bohner. They deserved him. And don't for get the puppy chow. Rand's off my list also.
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        • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 8 months ago
          And, again, Michael, the last two... hold... the last MANY elections, for me, were choices between Socialism and Theocracy.

          And it looks like the next one may be history 'rhyming' again.

          Good luck finding a candidate you can vote for.
          And same to me.
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
            I don't see it that way . I don't see a between this and that I see a very secular socialist party running a stage play with actors assignend roles as being fore or against, one side or another and an electorage that sort of bubbas along applauding on queue in Clintonesque lock step. If it's theocracy it's a secular version. So I'm not at at all concerned as the final candidate(s) have already been chosen. That's there system. Not mine. Nor do I have to buy into it or show any allegience to it. i'm more inclined to honor a forum held write here with the ACLU Soristas weeded out and run with x number of parties y number of coalitions and once elected proclaim them the shadow government. As long as it was run by the Constitution. Those other people back by Europe somewhere on the Putt o matic River have nothing to do with me or my country.
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
            I don't expect to. But I stick with this. My oath of office and personal preference is to a multi party Republic system of government under the constitution. Since that has nothing to do with this government they are on their own.
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            • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago
              "they are on their own."
              If only they had the same courtesy toward us.

              Liberty runs strong in my family.
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              • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
                ah yes there is that fly in the ointment. I wasn't however being courteous. Just polite. I could have said go suck an egg. I could have said Eat S--t and bark at the moon. But I'm guilty of being more civilized - to some extent. So SUE ME! You get one thumb for that!
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
            I couldn't find any except the Kennedy situation. And the last one or was it to when the anti-semitics came out and of course the one's where the anti christians came out but those turned out to be more economics than but come to think of it it's been used a lot as the excuse but not as the reason. Elections like wars are about economics and violence or the threat there of is always the answer unless trumped by economics.
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    • Posted by $ CBJ 10 years, 8 months ago
      I think there is some usefulness to having the presidential campaign start this early. It encourages voters to spend more time evaluating the issues and the candidates, rather than rushing to judgment following a short campaign season. The early start has already begun paying dividends, by ending the presidential campaigns of two "establishment" Republicans and by allowing more of the questionable activities of the Democratic front-runner to come to light.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
        All the chickens have not come home to roost. make that be roasted. To paraphrase a remark Coulter made one time on another subject. A Democrat is a Perfected Rino and a Rino is a Democrat not yet perfected. That is if support the leftists.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 10 years, 8 months ago
    Fiorina disqualified herself when she chastised Carson for saying Muslims should not be elected President.
    What she does not accept is that one can not be a good Muslim and subordinate sharia to the Constitution.
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    • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 8 months ago
      I recall the same being said of JFK and Catholicism - the claim was that the US would be run by the pope were JFK elected. That did not happen.

      Right now, I would indeed look askance at a Muslim being elected President, because his/her term would be about nothing but that, but I don't think that it is theoretically possible for this to occur and the Pres to be a good leader of the US. I am willing to wait a few decades until the Muslim religion is no longer such a spectacular example of dissonance, however.

      Jan
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
        Good point especially after that happening in the present one. That would make two groups still needing to validate themselves politically. The first with no turn at bat and the second with two strikes. Bubba the first * President who was . and Obama the first *** who wasn't a President. Whee you find asteriks insert the latest PC term. Correction there are three. I quite forgot Hillary focusing on important topics. (Edit I had to replace my astericks being replaced with dashes with asteriks again. reeditFor whatever reason the three parts with any astericks should have five. I think this is program has a Carville virus.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 8 months ago
    The one thing Fiorina does state as her position I emphatically support: zero-base government budgeting. That means each agency's budget must be fully justified each year, instead of the farce we now have, with using last year's budget as a given, without question, and adding an arbitrary percentage (usually much higher than the inflation rate claimed by the government). Unjustified agency budgets are the primary reason for duplication, waste, and fraud perpetrated against the taxpayer, and unending government growth.

    Fiorina goes further, stating she wants a zero base justification for agency existence, based on the roles for government laid out in the Constitution. Any agency that can't point to a definitive Constitutional reason for its existence gets eliminated. Rand Paul is a fan of zero base budgeting, but I haven't heard him push for outright elimination of agencies, like Fiorina.
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  • Posted by DanShu 10 years, 8 months ago
    A heads up: Glenn Beck will have Fiorina on the Blaze next Tuesday. Should be interesting. He is a very sharp Common Core, man made Climate/Change and Imigration critic.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 8 months ago
    These facts make her seem very reasonable, but I can't stand her strong support for the war on drug users.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago
      None of those are reasonable positions unless you love the state and hate liberty. Guess you will be voting socialist again.
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        Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 8 months ago
        I'm obviously not voting socialist. None of this is socialist:
        - Admitting we have 20 million people here who are technically not supposed to be here but we've looked the other way for decades.
        - Admitting human activities accelerate climate change.
        - National education standards

        The most "socialist" item is the national education standards. That grows out having gov't-run schools. If we're not going privatize them, we should have standards. Part of the value of a diploma is people knowing what it means-- that the student met specific requirements.

        The climate change one is not socialist or any ideology; it's just a fact. That means it is a claim can be proven or disproven. It doesn't have an ideology. Not liking the final consequences does not change reality.

        The immigration one is a mess because we've been just looking the other way, ignoring our laws, for decades, and now we expect someone to come up with a program to fix it quickly.

        They're all issues where we're in a tough spot that we'd rather not be in, and people want to react as if they're political ideology could make them go away. Unfortunately it will take hard work. Like so many problems, we'll wait until they become crises to deal with them. Until then they lend themselves perfectly to politicking and not getting stuff done.
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        • Posted by BenFrank 10 years, 8 months ago
          I wish that I could agree with you on "standardized" government education. Unfortunately it has not worked at all so far. No child left behind was a quota system that seemed to leave all the children of the United States very far behind. More "standardization" will not help and will not make a high school diploma any more meaningful. The result will only be more expense, more bureaucracy and our children will be the victims. What our children need is more parental involvement and a higher caliber of instructors. Neither of those can be legislated. Instead what they will get is exactly the same result, being passed even when they are failing because someone may ask the dreaded question...why?
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        • Posted by bsmith51 10 years, 8 months ago
          I guess if someone kills you, you will only be technically dead. I can accept that.
          As to global warming, er, uh, climate change, er, uh, man-caused climate change, you obviously look the other way at the fact that government promotes itself by funding and therefore rewarding "science" that raises alarm and promotes massive government intervention and thus ever larger government. Science isn't the problem; human nature is the problem, which is why we have a Constitution designed to limit its harmful effects.
          As to Common Core, I refer you to this, which speaks for itself:

          http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/02/6-s...
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          • Posted by mccannon01 10 years, 8 months ago
            Ha, spot on, bsmith51.

            Those common core examples remind this old guy of a saying: "Walking around the mountain to take a leak next door". Only bureaucrats and academics could love loading down simple grade school mathematics with pompous procedure to the point of confusing the issue to the most casual observer. Too many young kids don't like math to begin with, now this crap can only make more turn away from the subject. It's a good thing there are computers and calculators to do math for them because this cc approach is a cumbersome bore.
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        • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago
          You continue to ignore the evidence and promote the same empty irrational rubbish. The state is at fault for all the items and Carly is a statist that pretends the state will solve the problems it created. Maybe YOU are looking the other way, but you have no right to accuse anyone else of doing so. Your favorite savior his majesty O-racist hasn't been just looking the other way either; he has purposely not enforced the law as passed and funded by the congress. The people living in border states haven't been looking the other way either. They have been resisting the invasion in every legal way they could. Take your irrational commentary to some socialist, statist site where it and you belong. You are wasting the valuable time of everyone here.
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        • Posted by dadyer 10 years, 8 months ago
          Admitting human activities accelerate climate change? Television makes people perceive the world as being dramatically smaller than it really is. As a result they perceive humans have more influence on the environment and ecology of the planet than they really do. It is easy to look at a landfill and imagine the whole world looks like it. However, that is a mistaken perception or assumption. When one realizes that the entire world's population could gather on Long Island, NY (1400 square miles), it becomes difficult to believe humans could be responsible for affecting the climate of the earth (197 million square miles).
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
      She's a poltician. What she says has no connection to what she will do. She also is a Reublican but says she 's a Democrat. Who knows? No much difference there anyway.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
      Think about it. Which group is more likely not to make it to the polls. Nothing lost there and the growers are more than likely clear headed capitalists.
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    • Posted by H2ungar123 10 years, 8 months ago
      Her strong support for a war on drug users
      probably is due to the sad fact that she and her
      husband buried a daughter due to drug ad-
      diction.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 8 months ago
        Right, but marijuana is not very addictive and never killed anyone directly. Moreover, the war approach against truly addictive drugs is not working. I wish she could turn this tragedy in her life into support for reforms that really reduce harm to people who get caught up with drug addiction.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 8 months ago
          I'm reminded of a girl I dated for a short time in college back around 1972.
          Once she started to smoke weed, she did not want to do anything or go anywhere.
          Of course, I lost all interest in her and moved on. Other fish in the sea . .
          .The last thing I heard about her word-of-mouth? She had quit college and been raped by a black drug dealer.
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
            Common ending. About the do nothing go nowhere crows. Having lived not far from Takelma the lengthy discussions on what to do next AKA 'get it together' were a constant source mirth and amazement. Food Stamp day however saw a miraculous change with everyone present. Something akin to loaves and fishes without the sermon or listening to Nancy 'Benita' Pelosillynni
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        • Posted by H2ungar123 10 years, 8 months ago
          And what would those " reforms that really
          reduce harm" be, pray tell.
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          • Posted by dadyer 10 years, 8 months ago
            Legalization would be the best reform! Legalization doesn't mean advocating drug use, it simply means recognition that drug addiction is a medical/mental health problem that can best be addressed by doctors, psychologists, and psychiatrists better than police officers, courts, and prisons. This is not just an opinion, this is borne out by the success of methadone treatment programs that allow addicts to be addicted and still lead a relatively normal life as productive citizens free of criminal activity.
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            • Posted by bsmith51 10 years, 8 months ago
              Given that addicts generally don't want help until they've destroyed everything around them, if drugs are legalized, who will address the "health problem" you mention, and under what circumstances?
              As the father of an addict, I would prefer execution of anyone who sells illegal drugs. Then kick them in a hole and be done with them. Period. That doesn't mean we have vigilante mobs running around killing people. It means the risks of selling are too high, so the problem dries up.
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              • Posted by BenFrank 10 years, 8 months ago
                Amen brother! As someone who has watched a number of families, including my own, destroyed by addiction I too would support the death penalty, public torture or dipping dealers in gasoline and dragging them around the streets tied to the bumpers of their Maserati until they ignite. Yes it's easy to go all medieval on them. Sadly the reality is when one lives in a free society our young people have the right to destroy themselves and break our hearts. They never realize they forfeit their freedom to enslavement of the most hideous of masters.
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                • Posted by mccannon01 10 years, 8 months ago
                  Well, BenFrank, you touch upon an interesting point of discussion. That is, do minors have the freedom to abuse themselves with drugs, while mom and dad are forced by the state to pick up the tab for whatever the consequences may be?
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              • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 8 months ago
                Addicts will have to be addressed as they are now (when they are) -- by persuading their enablers to stop enabling. Government has shown a complete lack of competence at doing this.

                Addicts are a very small proportion of users anyway. And even they (and enablers) do not deserve punishment, which is the only thing the State knows how to do.
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            • Posted by MarkHunter 10 years, 8 months ago
              Propaganda point: instead of "legalization" use the term "decriminalization."

              Because "legalization" sounds to some people like we are promoting drugs
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              • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 10 years, 8 months ago
                No! Legalization is pro-freedom. Decriminalization still allows the state to take your freedom for using drugs, to mandate counseling, to take your gun rights.
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                • Posted by MarkHunter 10 years, 8 months ago
                  I intend the two terms to mean exactly the same thing. The difference is the sound of them to the man on the street, not intellectual types like on this forum.

                  “Decriminalization” – despite the many syllables – goes down easier. And having “de-crime” in the word more strongly insinuates that people have been unjustly imprisoned.

                  We need to do a focus group, LOL.
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                  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
                    Question. Three Strikes you're Out with the third being pot related. Of those jailed in states having that situation 'three strikes plus legalized marijuana;' how many strike outs have been released and been replaced with violent felons.?
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            • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 8 months ago
              Marijuana legalization isn't working so well for Colorado. Recreational users don't like paying the high price of regulated, taxed MJ, and the black market is thriving. The cartels are brazenly using Mafia tactics to take over registered distributors. Traffic deaths from marijuana use are rising (probably more than documented, since users also consume alcohol, which is easier to detect). Middle school users are a growing group, and teachers report a drop in student interest.

              Treating drug use like alcohol consumption may not be the best way to undo the war on drugs disaster. Licensing users, allowing them to purchase THC capsules and liquids from pharmacies without a prescription, just like cold medicine is one approach, and I'm sure there are others.

              What amazes me is that a medical community obsessed with pulmonary health has remained silent with respect to smoking marijuana. The tars in marijuana smoke are as harmful to the lungs as tobacco smoke, and perhaps more carcinogenic. Maybe a vapor delivery system for THC absent the harmful tars would be less potentially harmful. More research on safer delivery systems would be helpful.
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              • Posted by BenFrank 10 years, 8 months ago
                DrZarkov99 do you have access to any links substantiating the health risks to the pulmonary system? I have often wondered about these risks yet trying obtain facts seems quite difficult. Of course proponents are always declaring that smoking MJ has few health risk factors in comparison to tobacco. We went to the moon hyped on cigarettes and coffee before lung disease set in. It's unlikely we will accomplish much sedated on MJ and alcohol.
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              • Posted by dadyer 10 years, 8 months ago
                Isn't it amazing that marijuana and other drugs haven't precipitated the demise of humankind over the past several thousand years that they have NOT been illegal. How did we ever make it this far? Mike Gray, in an interesting book titled Drug Crazy, points out that women rarely drank alcohol before prohibition. People rarely smoked marijuana or used other drugs before prohibition. He notes that the addiction rate 100 years ago was about 1%, the same as today and the most effective tool against addiction in the late 19th - early 20th century was the Pure Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act that required manufacturers to list ingredients on labels. Once people realized what was in patent medicines (opium, cocaine, laudanum, etc.) they stopped purchasing them. It may take a generation or two but with the "hidden fruit" aspect removed by legalization (or decriminalization) and the decrease in sensationalism in media, addiction would probably return to being a minor medical problem affecting only a very small percentage of the population. Just my opinion.
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                • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 8 months ago
                  Prohibition is gone, and alcohol addiction is still a serious social problem. Opium addiction was a serious social problem in China until the Communist takeover. In most cases, availability seems to be the driver that generates widespread use. Making marijuana more available will of course make use (and abuse) a more likely result. I do think that treating it as a medical issue, and restricting promotion of the drug is a better way of handling the problem than massive incarceration of users. Given the possible COPD effects, incentivizing vapor products over smoking the weed itself seems a reasonable precaution.
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                • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
                  It might have been availability. As opposed to other parts of the world. But it was a native species commonly known as hemp (for manufacturing rope) or locoweed which adversely affected cattle. My Dad mentioned it being a weed type plant in NW Iowa and wondered why his father made the boys stand upwind when the lit off a pile of it. Years later he learned the name marijuana as a school teacher in Oregon.
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              • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
                Ah HAH another of my predictions comes true. As for the tars. Leave them in. It's mother natures way of counter balancing human caused dumbing down and as we all know. "It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature!" Where the beef where the beef!!!
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        • Posted by bsmith51 10 years, 8 months ago
          Unlike the old days, marijuana now comes in various strengths. Some varieties create little effect while others, of equal measure, blank out your weekend.
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
            It had different characteristics back then . Maui Wowi, Panama Red, Sensemilla....etc. Just think! Without something extra available how would Miss Lube Job have made it to being the third most powerful woman in the world with AF3 to prove it? That's my flag post for the day."
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 8 months ago
    She was also a terrible CEO, tanking not just one, but two major companies. Remember, she tanked Lucent before she got to the helm of HP.

    Want to know why she lost so badly to Barbara Boxer in that Senate race in CA? Because all Boxer had to do was run a single issue ad exposing how terrible Fiorina was for business to completely undercut any potential cache she had. Boxer won in a landslide.

    Fiorina has the gift of being quick on her feet mentally, but her credentials are merely high-profile failures for which she got paid a lot of money. I'd vote for her only if it the alternative were Hillary Clinton.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 10 years, 8 months ago
    I might be wrong, but like the rest of the pack, she is ill-informed and never bothered to vet these issues out.
    It has taken me more than a year to vet out the manmade c(lie)mate sham to my own satisfaction.
    You just can't believe anybody upon face value these days, especially those that claim to be expert.

    So the question to her should be; when and why have you changed your mind on these issues...what was Your A Ha moment?
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    • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago
      So now flip flopping for votes is a good trait in a president? (Or did I misunderstand, OUCarl?) Carly's statements on these topics are recent. If she had not felt confident that her audience would favor the way she presented these issues, she would not have said them. She is a very slick salesman, but I am not buying the con.
      BTW, is your handle a comment on the candidate?
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 10 years, 8 months ago
        That's funny, hadn't thought of that; oleuglycarly...hahahahahahahahah

        What I was saying is that practically no one vets these things out and I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt. Maybe not in this case but one should ask these questions directly and then make an assessments on the response.
        Then, vet it out like crazy. As for the audience in carlyfornia, I think it's obvious the lack of gray matter in that state.
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  • Posted by wiggys 10 years, 8 months ago
    her comments about humans causing climate change which takes place daily will be one more reason for her demise.
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    • Posted by NealS 10 years, 8 months ago
      It's interesting about her comments on climate change, how we now disagree on what she said. I heard something completely different. I heard her say, " There is a lot of consensus among scientists that climate change is real, that human activity contributes....". This is not taking a personal position one way or the other to me. I also heard her actually say that it should not be mandated but innovated.... To me this means I have a choice, if I want to put solar cells on my roof I can, if I don't want to, I don't have to. Same goes for healthcare and educating my (grand)children. If the other side only heard her say, "It is real and man-made" would they actually vote for her? You can bet not, they heard every word.
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      • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago
        Yes, Carly does a great job of weasling around the topic, and saying exactly what will please her audience while simultaneously giving credence and her approval to the "science" that seeks to defraud everyone to concentrate power in a world government. She is a superb at selling herself, which is how she became CEO at HP, and failed all the shareholders. that is what she promises for the American people.
        Power and wealth for Carly; more broken promises for Americans.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 10 years, 8 months ago
        One thing people need to realize is Yes, mankind, or more precisely, corrupt governments, have effected our Environment. But the environment has Nothing to do with climate. (out side the local effects of heat islands-cities).
        Climate is consistent weather patterns over long periods of time; and that is controlled by the sun and is cyclical in nature.
        Like I posted earlier, It has taken me a year to vet all the bull crap out.
        Also, I have come to know that what ever the side that opposes everything we know to be true and successful is definitely yanking your chain.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
          Prince Albert of Gore has lost a shoe
          Possibly probably as many as two
          The Truth he finds has realigned
          An Inconvenient sign of the times
          The Crown Prince of Green hastily fled
          With a piercing shrieking portent of dread.
          Wagging just one shoe behind

          Imaginative thorough examination
          No delay to digestive deduction
          Nor the skillful use of proctology tools
          Seeking location of shoe # 2.
          Nor in his --- as you might of guessed
          The answer so simple look somewhere else
          He was wagging a silver foot in his mouth.

          I might have written with acceptable prose
          But had not one clothes pin for my nose.
          No shame faced apologies left to due
          It's the end of his tale I'm avoiding...adieu.
          While leaving Old Carl with thumb number two.
          And if you enjoyed his fined fettled report
          You might add another in lieu of a retort
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 8 months ago
            I realized it doesn't scan properly so I applied the first of the four life saving steps and caution everyone not to move the patients opposed manipulating digits until competent medical responders arrive.
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      • Posted by NealS 10 years, 8 months ago
        This is an example of someone that says what they mean more specifically: Gov. Inslee (WA State) announced to his supporters this week that he’s “writing new rules to cap carbon emissions” because “Republicans in our state legislature refused to act, so now I'm taking executive action.” There are many exceptions one could take to the governor’s strident, partisan e-mail, but I’ll focus on two things here: ....". Now Inslee is the type of politician that we need to fear, that will mandate whatever he knows as the real thing, be damned about the people and their stupid opinions.
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