Let's give them some time...there is also two new threads under NEW one on Democrats using Carly to defuse the Hillary Bomb and the other on the new Supreme Court Decisions relating to gun control. Our hero in DC won again. imagine right in the belly of the beast in the role of dragon slayer!
Got that right. I read a good study of the fate of multi party systems. If more than two two will dominate as they are really coalitions who ignored their smaller party members. The next step is becoming one party with one set of goals and rules de facto and finally de jure. I believe the Government Party skipped the last step figuring rightly the Humanoids would never notice..meanwhile some hope even from leftists the Court ruled against the gun control crowd once again and that's in another post up in NEW
They weren't ready for democratic principles. The Democrats are not democratically inclined so much as a quarter bubble on a good transit neither are their lapdogs.
Wrong again. the US is not a Democracy and I defy you to find that word in the Constitution when we did have it. It was at best a democratically elected Republic. End of conversation. Up until the elections were rigged by the one party system proponents. That would be the left primarily as I recall. The socialist fascists to be precise.
I hadn't thought of that as a back stop. I did think of the following.
1 No winners by plurality. 2.No votes given to other candidates or measures 3. If NOTA wins but has less than 50% plus one Any candidate whose votes added to NOTA would equal a majority. In a multi candidate race if NOTA got 50 as plurality leader the next highest would stay on the ballot. If NOTA 40 and the next highest had ten and the next nine both would remain. However if NOTA had 50 and the ten had five each all get scrubbed. That one wants some thinking. Who would fill the seat in the next month for example.
4. If NOTA wins and has more than 50% plus one the entire slate is scrubbed and requires a new measure or all new candidates.
Length of time to run a new race one week to file two weeks to campaign. Votes added. October becomes November same day. Still no winner November becomes December same day. The first day with a nod to weekends. Plenty of time to do some coalition building and plenty of time for the third race or run off winner to get read into the picture. with the Inauguration 49 days later. No stage coaches.
All coupled with voting on the same day at the same hours and no results announced until the furthest (Hawaii and the Aleutian Chain of Alaska) have closed the polls.
Proposals pose a problem of their own. I favor if a proposal is voted down it's done with. Seattle voted tearing down the unpaid for Kingdome and building the new sports venue. The Legislature declared an emergency and without vote billed the entire state. That is not a substantive change. What they needed was a location change The traffic is third worst in the nation on a good day and with a game in progress it's probably the first worst I-5 and I-90 join right at the ferry and cruise ship docks
I look forward to your new thread on this, MichaelAarethun. I am pretty sure I know where you are going with this, and if I'm right, we are in complete agreement.
The biggest reason is that the majority of Americans are just too ignorant, don’t avail themselves to learn the politicians platforms, or just too lazy to understand the constitution.
This argument should be the basis for a constitutional amendment requiring that "none of the above" be a candidate on the ballot. This would work if there were additional language stipulating that any state or district for "none of the above" would be allowed to secede if it voted for "none of the above" in consecutive presidential elections (or something like that).
In many respects, this question was rhetorical. One of my purposes in asking it was to solidify in words what I knew but was having a hard time verbalizing.
An excellent point, William. Even though Objectivism is a reasonable system of ideas, it is often not regarded as such. I think I was previously blind to this point.
Would John Galt win today? Absolutely not! In our heart of hearts we know that. Man has continued to distanced himself from reason from its inception. The majority of the peoples on this planet would not be able to define what reason is, how to apply it much less recognize it with a vote.
No my friends, we are here because we are few.
It is an illusion to hope that a considerable number of voters, much less a majority, would vote an "O" into the presidency under current social/political conditions. To open that door it would take something short of a revolution IMHO.
I forgot the punch line to keep things on topic. The answer will give you the answer and reason for both the threads. and then i'll repost it as a new thread to clean up jbrenner's main topic. If you would wait a bit for that to happen to start the free for all. Thank you.
During the Dark Ages, the big question of the day was, "How many angels could dance on the head of a pin?" That's about the same relevancy as this question has inasmuch as the answer is a bunch of foregone conclusions.
Define conservative then define liberal. The real definitions not the PC version.
I should make it easy for you.
I like to liberally spread a lot of peanut butter on real butter on my 12 grain bread and never mind it's two weeks to payday I have a credit card.
I like peanut butter but not with real butter and healthy bread which is an oxymoron I know but it's two weeks to pay day so I'll make what I have last and reconsider my budget.
The rest is just PC BS from people that don't know what they are.
Where do you find the most liberals and where do you find the most conservatives in the in the Humanoid Party aka Government Party AKA left wing socialist etc. ad nausea coalition formerly known separately as Republicans and Democrats?
An objective individual will have no trouble figuring that out arrive at a conclusion properly tested determine if it is useful therefore practical and put it to good use.
One would expect a subjective prone collectivist to leap for the pragmatic answer answering the needs of the moment but that is rare instead...skip all of that and ask the party for today answer.
The difference defines who is and who isn't free at least in their thinking and reasoning and who do not qualify ergo the Humanoid Party
Which still begs the answer to the question,
where are the most conservatives found and likewise the most liberals.
Two very short answers then I'll grade the papers.
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As for Seattle's problems, Melbourne, FL has a lot of redeeming qualities. I thought you were in Mexico. Am I wrong?
1 No winners by plurality.
2.No votes given to other candidates or measures
3. If NOTA wins but has less than 50% plus one
Any candidate whose votes added to NOTA would equal a majority. In a multi candidate race if NOTA got 50 as plurality leader the next highest would stay on the ballot. If NOTA 40 and the next highest had ten and the next nine both would remain. However if NOTA had 50 and the ten had five each all get scrubbed. That one wants some thinking. Who would fill the seat in the next month for example.
4. If NOTA wins and has more than 50% plus one the entire slate is scrubbed and requires a new measure or all new candidates.
Length of time to run a new race one week to file two weeks to campaign. Votes added. October becomes November same day. Still no winner November becomes December same day. The first day with a nod to weekends. Plenty of time to do some coalition building and plenty of time for the third race or run off winner to get read into the picture. with the Inauguration 49 days later. No stage coaches.
All coupled with voting on the same day at the same hours and no results announced until the furthest (Hawaii and the Aleutian Chain of Alaska) have closed the polls.
Proposals pose a problem of their own. I favor if a proposal is voted down it's done with. Seattle voted tearing down the unpaid for Kingdome and building the new sports venue. The Legislature declared an emergency and without vote billed the entire state. That is not a substantive change. What they needed was a location change The traffic is third worst in the nation on a good day and with a game in progress it's probably the first worst I-5 and I-90 join right at the ferry and cruise ship docks
The rest has to do with Campaigning not voting.
blatantly honest and forthright
BS filter settings don't allow "polite discourse"
too little regard for lying, cheating middle-of-the-road people
better things to do with our time and money? -- j
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Absolutely not!
In our heart of hearts we know that.
Man has continued to distanced himself from reason from its inception. The majority of the peoples on this planet would not be able to define what reason is, how to apply it much less recognize it with a vote.
No my friends, we are here because we are few.
It is an illusion to hope that a considerable number of voters, much less a majority, would vote an "O" into the presidency under current social/political conditions. To open that door it would take something short of a revolution IMHO.
I should make it easy for you.
I like to liberally spread a lot of peanut butter on real butter on my 12 grain bread and never mind it's two weeks to payday I have a credit card.
I like peanut butter but not with real butter and healthy bread which is an oxymoron I know but it's two weeks to pay day so I'll make what I have last and reconsider my budget.
The rest is just PC BS from people that don't know what they are.
Where do you find the most liberals and where do you find the most conservatives in the in the Humanoid Party aka Government Party AKA left wing socialist etc. ad nausea coalition formerly known separately as Republicans and Democrats?
An objective individual will have no trouble figuring that out arrive at a conclusion properly tested determine if it is useful therefore practical and put it to good use.
One would expect a subjective prone collectivist to leap for the pragmatic answer answering the needs of the moment but that is rare instead...skip all of that and ask the party for today answer.
The difference defines who is and who isn't free at least in their thinking and reasoning and who do not qualify ergo the Humanoid Party
Which still begs the answer to the question,
where are the most conservatives found and likewise the most liberals.
Two very short answers then I'll grade the papers.
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