I agree with your thinking in the first paragraph.
Your Clinton example proves my point on voting for evil. Had George Bush won, the march toward one world dictatorship would have been even faster because there would have been less resistance from so called conservatives. Today it is even worse. Voting for any GOP candidate for POTUS will be a vote for dictatorship because the GOP leadership will never allow any uncontrollable liberty minded person to represent them. With so many better candidates available, the GOP leadership chose Dole and McCain. The GOP selection process is rigged.
I also think that it won't take 50% of the population leaving the GOP forever to elect an outsider (or force a coup to try to prevent that transfer of power to the people.) If we, who HAVE the knowledge base you cite, don't start the process and vote against evil then the likelihood of violence becomes likely, imo, and the result is likely to be more dictatorship and a complete loss of liberty.
We must educate and if we vote, we must vote on principle, against the state party.

Spinning off the analytical chemistry part of HP as Agilent Technologies (now Keysight) was one of her first decisions. That part was high profit and innovative. Carly kept the less innovative part. My comments come from a customer perspective.

The Anti-Party Party was Perot's idea when he started the Reform Party back in the early 1990s.

I'm good with this (Paul/Johnson ticket)

Herb: In other words, "cut your losses".

Would love a Paul-Carson ticket!

Like your paraphrase of Trump's comment about Rand Paul's looks ;^)
I agree. The arrogance and holier than thou attitude has been more obvious in the past 25 years. Before that it was more subtle, but still consistently degrading.

I find it interesting that Republicans tout this group of 11 as the best and brightest who are vying for the nomination. Since as an Objectivist, I would judge them by the standards I hold for myself, I would eliminate 6 of them at the outset. Anyone delusionary enough to hang in after being at the bottom of the list for the next "debate" should be eliminated. Finally, when they're down to two, I'd pick the one less likely to do anything, because in Washington, even good intentions turn out to be crap.

Now you have:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vide...
What someone says BEFORE he is running for office often is more truthful than what he says AFTER he is running for office.
Ben might be different. If so, he will not be chosen by the GOP.
I agree, he often speaks with more sense than all the other candidates except Rand Paul.

I know, but really, I am fed up with the arrogant attitude that pervades business and almost all other forms of discourse where if you do not do what "they want", including the idiots you are paying them to do something, they proceed to tell you why you are such a bad person. Another reason I like Carson, I have yet to see him castigate anyone, and he has a rich field to pick from....

I must respectfully disagree, I have not found any place where he says he is anti gun or not supporting the 2nd amendment. I also have not seen anything to indicate to me he really gives a rats a@@ about what the Party wants, or that he is bounbd too. He seems to steam his own course, so I am really finding I respect him and I also love how he refuses to be baited. He trounced a CNN dude who tried to manipulate him into certain things, and he did it very intelligently and never raised his voice.

Ben's anti-gun stance is enough to disqualify him for me at present, but it won't matter. He's just there as window dressing to make it appear the GOP is considering him. The process is a corrupt bad joke on the sovereign people. It's time for a woman with experience in wrecking a business to take charge of the final destruction of America.

If you vote, the only rational choice is to vote for good, for individual liberty against evil, against intrusive, unconstitutional repressive, corrupt government.
Voting for either the Dems or the GOP would be the latter.

You are being far too kind, Nick.

Don't forget killing old people, that is always one of the crowd favorites. Either rolling them off a cliff, or making green crackers out of them.

I have given up on all the "Party" crap. They actually think if you are either one of these gangster groups, then you HAVE to believe what they say, give them huge money, and kiss the ground they bless you by walking on. Nope, Ben and Rand are all there are, and maybe a handful in the House/Senate. The problem is any group that tosses the party get skewered in the end by the same said party. They will eat their young if the young do not pray to them. Arrogant snots, all of them.

Just from what is on the shelf, I would have to go with Ben/Rand ticket, only because I still do not see him having a clear understanding of just what he can/can not accomplish. I think Ben has the ability to out think almost any one of the buffoons in politics he would run into. He never seems to say what people want to hear, but seems to say what they need to hear, in ways they will listen too. I think he could even gather in the conservative leaning democraps out there.

Herb: Unfortunately true. Rand Paul would be my choice but we will not have the honor of that vote.
So I go for turning everything on its head and that leaves me Trump.

Hey, a peep from me. He did very well defending his views. I liked what he had to say about immigration. He is full of common sense and is extremely intelligent. He's my guy!

An outsider (non GOP), e.g., Gary Johnson.

She realistically squashed innovation at HP, reverted it to a status quo completely dependent on absorbing Compaq (and their innovation teams) into HP to make the company viable. Then got rid of all the innovators and market changers from Compaq... in general, if you had a high salary, you were probably in danger. In the tech world, you need those people to survive.

Now... over 20 years later, realistically, HP hasn't invented anything that is worth anything. Apple and Dell pretty much clean their clocks every day of the week and they are still living off the remnants of the Compaq product lines they absorbed while everyone else has moved forward.