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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Let's see... no, not understood in the US, Great Britain, France.... Yep, 'Maybe Not.'
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  • Posted by Slytherin 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well said! Thank you for the explanations. The logic makes sense and refutes my previous statement.

    You mention an ideal world though. I think that a lot of governments right now and in the past have forced the issue, such as money redistribution policies against your will. This helped caused my misconception.

    I have been trying to figure out why that philosophy came out in my comment. I can only assume that it is both a remnant of what everyday society teaches and my own observations of our current government.

    It amazes me how hard it is to remove implicit cultural lessons.....
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  • Posted by RevJay4 8 years, 8 months ago
    The cartoon illustrates what so few people seem to understand, and I have been trying to spread the message for years. When business is taxed, over-regulated, etc. the person who pays for it all is the consumer in higher prices and less employment. I think that is an easy Econ101 lesson which anyone should be able to understand. Maybe not.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I love William's explanation, Slytherin. . he might also have
    said that the increases in productivity which result from the
    complementary specialization he described make everyone
    richer -- William learns to do software better and the farmer learns
    to do cattle better, so that everyone can have more of each,
    with higher quality!!! . this means that William and the farmer
    both get richer, so that they can afford to sponsor others
    who are learning how to do houses or clothing or tools or
    cars or cruise ships better. . they can sponsor the poor
    through their chosen charities, or directly. . they can afford
    more, and others benefit from it. . capitalism is the way
    that humans make everyone richer simultaneously. -- john
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In an optimal economy, everyone is a producer. They each have special talents that they bring to the economy. A tribe may have a natural hunter and a natural craftsman. The hunter can't really make things well and the craftsman is a poor hunter. But if the hunter gives some of his prey to the craftsman in exchange for well made spears, he becomes more productive and the spear maker can spend time getting better at making spears instead of scaring the prey as he tries to sneak up on them. Everyone eats better.

    A modern economy is much more sophisticated of course. I often marvel at the fact that as I spend my day sitting at a my computer writing software someone is raising a cow so that I can have a steak as a result. He's better at raising cows than I am and I'm better at software. We will probably never meet, of course, but our money will.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Right on William! I have always understood this fact, but it seems many do not. They think if they "have" something, then someone else "doesn't have" it. That there are only so many things to go around. That is so not true.
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  • Posted by Slytherin 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmm. I had always viewed economies as a zero sum game. One resource moved from one to another. One a lose, one a gain. In this cartoon the loss is carried down the chain.

    Your rebuttal intrigues me though. I am checking my premises. Does it only stem from producers making more from what they are given or did you have other arguments to consider ?
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 8 months ago
    It amazes me that liberals and progressives don't see this connection yet they themselves are the greedy...don't see them giving up profit, unearned income or stolen proceeds to pay 'Their' Fair Share!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 8 months ago
    Taxation money comes primarily from the Middle Class. And it is used in order to help.....the Middle Class? However once a dollar is filtered through the government system, it comes out looking more like twenty-five cents after expenses. SO -- in order to help the Middle Class, politicians take money from the Middle Class and turn it into one quarter of the amount taxed. Very helpful...huh?
    "Boomalay boom on the big bass drum,
    Where is the money coming from?
    It's used in research, children dear,
    For ways to increase the tax next year."
    ---Ogden Nash
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  • Posted by ChestyPuller 8 years, 8 months ago
    I find it amazing liberals (socialists) can't see the 'Trickle-Down' affect of raising or lowering taxes or regulations. Are they really that stupid, or is it like Obama and ISIS; a shadow game to hide their true desires?
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  • Posted by wiggys 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    go to drudge report and read the article "shady family behind the iran deal". Ther is the answer as to why the home boy is doing what he is doing. can't imagine the money's he will have acquired from them.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wonder if the day will come when I'm told to convert or off with my head way down here in the land of cotton. .
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 8 months ago
    scoop water from the deep end and pour ... oh, say, about half ...
    into the shallow end, keeping about half for themselves .......
    this helps the depth of the pool increase. . sure! -- j
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  • Posted by wiggys 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    bush rubio and graham say we should admit even more only as rubio says we should screen them to make "sure" they are connected to any terrorist organisation. they are muslims this idiot just doesn't understand so they are automatically terrorists.
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  • Posted by wiggys 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I just read in Brietbart that the usa is now taking in 280,276 muslims a year so if you still have a few bucks in your pocket put it in a can in the ground.
    If I was not seeing this in print and I guess on tv news I would think it was a bad joke but it is real and there is nothing that our sensible population is doing about it. They are just not going to their respective representatives and telling them enough is enough. The end result IS going to be that these muslims will not look for employment because they have been given "PERMANENT RESIDENCE" according to the article. The change the homeboy talked about IS going to take place over the next 50 years and unless there is some sort of uprising the country will no longer exist as we currently know it.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That they had to loot something of real value, and they knew that stuff they were printing and passing off as "money" had none?
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And as a precaution against The People "waking up" The Government works towards disarmament of The People.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was part of a group, more years ago than I can remember, of volunteers helping military and government civilians file taxes. All of the group I was dealing with one day were college-educated, and yet one person did demand why the government couldn't just use its own money instead of taking his. That was a sobering experience.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    10 trillion? A trillion trillion? A ka-zillion trillion? What's the dif? Roll the presses! It's only printed money.
    To heck with Colonel Sanders anyway. Let's hear from The Man who studied for 8 whole years to be president under the (up until now) biggest spender of all time--

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9puG...
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  • Posted by strugatsky 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You can't teach a pig to sing; you'll only annoy the pig. And the socialist controlled Depertment of "Education" makes sure of that.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 8 months ago
    As good a description of socialist economics as I've ever seen. Just think what it would be like if he had been an Economis scholar
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course... if the "sheeple" ever woke up and saw the terrifically devious scam being pulled on them, they would revolt... which is why they have to resort to smoke and mirrors to sell their snake oil while telling them "we're on your side", and keep them blind to the truth so they keep buying it.
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