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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 7 months ago
    I like choice. Let them choose to advertise their products and disclose exactly what goes into them and then let people do the research and make their own choices on the matter!

    Personally, I don't buy "organic" because they cost about twice as much as the other stuff. But the best stuff comes from my backyard garden!
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  • Posted by $ prof611 8 years, 7 months ago
    I've read all the comments, and noone has given a scientific reason for non-GMO. I'm a scientist, but that's not my field. Does anybody out there know about this?
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    • Posted by $ prof611 8 years, 7 months ago
      First of all, I don't know why neither Olduglycat or RichardDavey didn't give a link to the resource they mentioined. Here it is: http://www.amazon.ca/Altered-Genes-Tw....

      Secondly, I haven't had the chance to review the book itself, but I did find on the Amazon page above that the author of the book, Steven M. Druker, is a public interest attorney, not a scientist. I have serious doubts about the validity of a book about science written by a lawyer.

      And, after reading the reviews of the book, I didn't find any that were written by an objective scientist. In short, this reminds me of the "global warming" scam - wherein only scientists who have something to lose support it.
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago
      Also read the nutritional regulations within Agenda 21...google it if your dare...they want to limit them...seems to me, they already have.
      I also endorse Altered Genes, Twisted Truths.
      This is the best resource on the marked...it's by someone that lived it from the beginning.
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    • Posted by RichardDavey 8 years, 7 months ago
      Hello Professor I hope your doing well today? Here is the first question is it right to modify select what mother nature has given that works and is full of all the nutrients our bodies need to not just survive bur thrive? I have studied this subject and would suggest you read the following altered genes and twisted truths and swallow this both great read and will give you both the kabuki science and the political twist to why we need not be eating what man has created!
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 7 months ago
    Actually I would recommend making both those choices. You don't mess with a design--and that's what life is, a design--that has stood the test of time. I also have heard reports of serious illnesses, including birth defects, in farmhands who work GMO crops--especially the "RoundUp-Ready" crops, after the planter sprays them heavily with the glyphosphate-containing herbicide sold under the trade name RoundUp.
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    • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 7 months ago
      Life is not designed. The whole point of GMO is to start designing life forms, thus making them better.

      The notion of "organic" food (aka natural or health food) comes from a conspiracy theory that says the major food processing companies want to poison us. It's just stupid to believe anything of the sort.
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      • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 7 months ago
        Life has been designed since humans invented agriculture. "Domestication" is the term used for designing life. In the past it was done by trial and error, crossing different strains to get desired goals, or nurturing random mutants that are found with beneficial aspects.

        Do you think that all the various breeds of dogs naturally evolved?
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        • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 7 months ago
          That and the old way of breeding plants and animals did not create the obamanations we have today. They, in the beginning 'Assumed' it was safe to get right into the genes. It's NOT, done the old way, nature would have never done it that way, not to mention it is Trans-species which is exactly what the new age numbskulls want to do to YOU!
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        • Posted by WillieKriegs 8 years, 7 months ago
          I like the dog argument. Humans have produced many successful dog breeds to help us complete many tasks, very beneficial. The other side of the coin is there have been many errors, breeding dogs that have many problems such as hip dysplasia, skin disorders, immune system issues and blood disorders. So to the benefits outway the risks?

          Maybe so but I don't want to be the mistake in this game.

          http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/dogs-t...
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          • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 7 months ago
            That's why I like GMO, because instead of using trial and error we are able to determine which genes we are changing. It should be possible to generate beneficial changes without pulling in other ones.

            Of course it will take some time to understand this well enough and like any technology in its infancy we will have a learning curve.
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            • Posted by WillieKriegs 8 years, 7 months ago
              So we modify an apple to grow bigger, beneficial change sure, apple is bigger more cost effective to grow. But what about ten years done the round when we find an unfavorable effect on humans from consuming the bigger apple?

              Is that possible i'm not sure I plan to research more, and maybe no one knows.
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        • Posted by BenFrank 8 years, 7 months ago
          Sadly many hybrid dogs suffer greatly from all the specialized breeding. Mutts statistically are healthier and live longer then pure bred or hybridized breeds. Just because we created a Collie, Poodle or Bull Mastiff doesn't mean it's a substantially superior all around entity, just better for the purpose for which it was bred.
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        • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 7 months ago
          Breeding animals is a very crude way of trying to modify existing life forms, and it still doesn't give you access to the "plans" because there aren't any.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years, 7 months ago
    Organic and non-GMO are two different things. I have not been to a major league baseball game in five years, but the next time I go, I will have a hotdog, and it will not kill me. However, over the course of your lifetime, all those pesticides and herbicides add up. They make you sick in ways you cannot easily detect. Pesticides destroy the central nervous systems of insects. What are the effects on you? (Forget where you put your keys? Drop something on the way to the fridge?) With organic foods, you avoid that.

    GMO is a different issue entirely, and a silly one at that. At our co-op, they sell "organic pluots." A pluot is a cross between a plum and an apricot. (Say what?)
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