You are misinformed of such. If you are referring to the socialist nations of Europe, there are a few things you should note:

Effective tax rates in the EU are over 50% for personal income taxes. Some nations such as Norway approach 70%.

Both Great Britain and Denmark recently published public statements that basically said "we have to cut medical provisions or go bankrupt." Waiting lists for treatment are bad and emergency room conditions even worse.

I would ask you to define any area where you think socialized medicine is providing superior service at a better price and give evidence. I think that what you'll find is that you've been sold a bridge to nowhere.

Another thing that would really help is to remove the restrictions that prevent insurance providers from crossing state lines!

Agree that D vs R isn't the key. The key is putting in a President who respects the limitations of government. Haven't had one of those in almost 30 years.

More important than that, however, is that the next President should be a person who has run their own business - and one that wasn't a government contractor! We need fewer political science majors and community organizers in office and more doctors, more entrepreneurs. We need people who know how to balance a checkbook and run the government like a business.

D-Day: [to Bluto] Let it go. War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: [to Boon] Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.

Yes, seizure was a very real plan they were trying to set in action under Pelos as Speaker.
Oct., 2010 –SHTFPlan.com
"Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee heard from hand-picked witnesses advocating the infamous “Guaranteed Retirement Account” (GRA) authored by Theresa Guilarducci.
In a nutshell, under the GRA system government would seize private 401(k) accounts, setting up an additional 5% mandatory payroll tax to dole out a “fair” pension to everyone using that confiscated money coupled with the mandated contributions. This would, of course, be a sister government ponzi scheme working in tandem with Social Security, the primary purpose being to give big government politicians additional taxpayer funds to raid to pay for their out-of-control spending."
Somehow, i do not trust they are through with it yet.

Amen to that!

Speaking of easing... our "leaders" say they are not inflating our money supply through the $85B spent each month to buy treasuries. Where does that money come from then? Feels like a shell game of IOUs to me.

In my opinion, had we have to do the "hard decisions" (letting certain businesses fail, letting the market dictate the recovery, etc.) We would have already been out of the recovery. By all of the "easing" that we've done, we've not only pro-longed the recovery, we haven't really learned the lessons from it. We've kicked the budget can so far down the road, we're having to retrieve it from another town.

The problem is 90% are just bailing from the port side to the starboard side. It's supposed to go over the gunwales, guys. Putting in Bush 3 won't help, in fact it'll make things worse, because in the middle of all this, they'll declare a war on some weakened nation-state and spend more money we can't afford.

You know the thing about a pre-existing condition this was never a problem for me. If I changed insurances, I just joined the HMO plan that was offered. As long as I didn't have to go for a "pre-existing problem" for 3 months, I was treated just fine. Plus, since the HMO was the only one in town, I only had to do that once. Since I got a "certificate of prior insurance" from each job that I left, I was able to turn it in when I applied to my new HR department and it wasn't a factor to me.

It is not medical insurance that is being discussed; it is the financing of health care under a socialistic structure.

The lesson here is media matters.

I have read about the plans to seize retirement funds. It sounded crazy a few years ago. Now its business as usual.

Look for it to get even worse if Hillary is elected, or put in through election fraud. She is all out for a single payer system, she is all on board with UN Agenda 21, and loves the Common Core idea. Only difference, more people end up "suicides" under the Clintons. My husband should be retired, but is afraid to completely retire as long as these people are in office. They had a committee set up, before Pelosi was out as Speaker, to discuss seizing 401K and pension funds. We are all sunk if that happens.

Oh yes... those little indoctrination centers are churning them out quickly...

http://youtu.be/9Ty7WU872Lk

Unfortunately, government regulations have essentially destroyed the health insurance industry even before the final government takeover and you can't buy a plan that actually pays for only what you want. And because of the government regulations, your cash payment to a health provider is several times more than through an insurance plan - plain ridiculous! Of course, to fix it, we need more regulations...

You saw the children from NJ singing the song! There was a rather large reaction about that. It was never covered in the news media outside of the town the school was in. Not even Philadelphia covered it and the are only 10 miles away.

I wasn't asking for insurance to cover the pre-existing condition. Because of the condition, I could not get insurance period. I did not expect to have the pre-existing condition covered, I wanted insurance to cover other items etc. No could get any coverage.

How can you possibly say that? They're losing money hand over fist, to a very large extent because they are shielding The One, our Dear Leader Barack Hussein Obama (mmm, mmm, mmm).

Indeed they have only themselves to blame, but unfortunately the rest of us are in the same sinking vessel with them. And we are the only ones bailing...

I don't think he was saying "worse off" as in worse off than you; rather, I believe he was saying that many are worse off following the emaculation of our Dear Leader, Barack Hussein Obama (mmm, mmm, mmm).

Preventive care needs to be separate out of pocket then have catastrophic policy for the bad stuff. A secondary market trading policies might help too if health numbers are shared on the bid. Then get rid of the FED who devalued the currency and have a currency reset favoring the savers!

I think the bubble may burst sooner. It used to be the politicians and powers that be could keep it going until after an election but this time things are a lot worse than most realize.