Police aren't supposed to be the bad guys. But if they are equipped with surplus military equipment, trained and encouraged to assume violence will occur, prone to escalate situations rather than de-escalate them, and asked to enforce laws and activities that are egregiously unconstitutional like roadway checkpoints and explosive forced entries into homes...how do you think they are going to be seen and treated?

Well you didn't actually disagree. You said that their natural loyalty makes it harder to recognize bad cops. That is different from not doing something about a bad cop when they are recognized. I think that that is nonsense by the way. Cops by virtue of their training should be the first to recognize illegal activity. They intentionally turn a blind eye to it to avoid being a rat.

But that's a technicality. If you are in a job where public lives depend on your integrity and you choose to turn a blind eye to corruption then you are yourself corrupt. If a cop knows another cop is bad and does nothing he is a bad cop and an evil human being.

LOL

Man if I were I cop I would find a different line of work. The redirect you hear from black lives matter and black supremacist groups... like this guy

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governme...

Any stop could get them killed. Were I in there shoes I too would consider anyone an adversary until proven wrong. It is the only way you could be and not end up dead.

I do not agree.

In an office if you know a person takes few pens home now and again do you rat them out. No, it would be a silly thing to do so over. If they are embezzling 50k a year, then you have to.

The problem cops have this loyalty to each other and recognizing when one should be a rat verses when one should not becomes very murky because of it. At least that is from my observations.

They are mostly just people who are trying to do what they believe to be right.

Because, We, the People, don't stop them using appropriate forces.

If you won't do something about a bad cop - then you are not a good guy. Or a good cop.

They are trained to dehumanize. I know a couple high up in Seattle PD. They are now retired. Any stop is looked at as an adversary.

yes. now the cops are even "twitchier" ok-fun fact. K's camp counselor name ( I am a life long girl scout) was "Twitcher."

....and most of them are good guys.

The only thing that bothers me is the good cops generally wont call onto the carpet a cop who has bad behavioral traits because of some "I ain't no snitch" code the police collective has.

I would have to know if they were very real looking toy weapons or toy looking and what people did. I mean if guy pulls a toy Mac-10 out that looks complete like the real thing and starts to level it off at the cop.... that guy getting shot and killed is not a surprise.

It is also not surprising to me that 23 people might be stupid enough to do just that in the course of a year.

I would bet that at least one of them is not anything like that however. Its more like an obvious toy and a twitchy cop in a tense situation and someone gets nailed because they "played" at the wrong time. That is sad

And if only 87.4% have had weapons, then how can only 0.96% have been unarmed?

How many people were shot (and didn't die?)? How many dogs were shot during no-knock raids? Why are there 20,000 no-knock raids in the US each year when they clearly violate the 4th Amendment?

There is no "The Police", there are only individual police officers. And some of them are indeed bad guys. And some of them are merely incompetent.

that 23 people killed were "armed" with toy weapons in 2015 is alarming to me