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  • Posted by mminnick 10 years, 3 months ago
    I cannot remember when a state exercised is right under Article 5 of the Constitution to ask for a convention. Go Wisconsin.
    For those that don't know, Article 5 provides two methods of amending the Constitution. One way having the amendment proposed by congress is the usual way. The second way is to have 2/3 of the states as for a convention to propose a specific amendment. The convention is for the specified purpose of the single amendment, not a convention to write a new constitution.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 3 months ago
    I support the idea, but how do you make exceptions for war or national emergency without those exceptions being abused as loopholes?

    We should still try. I favor an appointed fiscal policy board that sets what the deficit or surplus must be. They wouldn't tell you how to get there, tax/spending hikes/cuts. They'd just tell what the deficit/surplus needs to be. They would take into account national emergencies and the benefits of paying down debt faster during the good times.
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  • Posted by LionelHutz 10 years, 3 months ago
    I feel some additional information is worth knowing:
    a) While the Constitution allows for the state congresses to initiate the federal constitution amendment process, it has never been done. Every amendment we've ever had was initiated by the federal congress.
    b) When the federal congress initiates an amendment, precise amendment language is written up and nothing happens until enough states approve (ratify) it.
    c) If the states are successful in triggering a constitutional convention, that convention has full control to do whatever it pleases even to the point of completely ignoring the initial reason for the convention and discarding our present constitution. (That's how we got the one we have now). Any proposals still have to be passed by the federal congress and then ratified by enough states.
    Some people feel a constitutional convention is a very dangerous thing that could be usurped to nefarious ends.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 3 months ago
      Would still need to be passed by 3/4 of the states. A run-away convention would never get that amount of states to ratify it.
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      • Posted by LionelHutz 10 years, 3 months ago
        Yes - agree - the process is not without its checks and balances. However, never say never. As I pointed out, it's how we got our current constitution. That convention was supposed to amend the articles of confederation. Critics also point out that the states already have a track record of ratifying some truly stupid amendments, such as the 16th (income tax), 17th (direct election of senators), and 18th (prohibition). Also, the country elected Obama - twice.
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        • Posted by 10 years, 3 months ago
          The "country" didn't elect O, the cities did. Look at an electoral map by county and you'll see that the "country" has not ever elected a D.
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