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  • Posted by ANTImongrelPhilosophy 13 years, 1 month ago
    A is A. HURRY UP. We all need the message of the JG Speech.
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    • Posted by flanap 13 years, 1 month ago
      Yeah...but who defines A?
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      • Posted by LionelHutz 13 years, 1 month ago
        If someone defined it for you, why would you accept it?
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        • Posted by flanap 13 years, 1 month ago
          I would accept it if they created me.
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          • Posted by LionelHutz 13 years, 1 month ago
            The term "A=A" is meant to be taken "deal with reality, man.". It's the opposite of the popular way of thinking that people can ignore the impact of reality by denying it objectively exists - that they can wish it away - that they can say "well, that's what YOU think, but it's all relative - there is no truth - there is no standard."
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            • Posted by flanap 13 years, 1 month ago
              I agree there are standards (man creates standards all the time) and A is A, reality exists and is incontrovertible.

              Perhaps I have misunderstood the whole A thing. I guess if I say that God existing equals A, then A is A, regardless of others' opinions. Gee, A is always A, then.

              If that is the case, if others say A is not A, then their statement cannot mean what they say it means, unless they do not intend to communicate anything.
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              • Posted by LionelHutz 13 years, 1 month ago
                I had to read it a couple of times, but I think that last sentence is pretty close to what Ayn Rand was getting at. She's got this great line in the Galt speech about how people refuse to think because they think by doing that they escape the responsibility of judgment. And she's got several characters whose main trait is talking a lot, but saying nothing of substance - because internally they don't believe substance even exists. To give concrete examples from today's politics of denial that A=A, look at how people refuse to label the Boston bombings as Islamic terrorism. Or, when people are told Obamacare is going to result in people losing their employer health plan and they'll be forced into a government-regulated exchange, they reply "well, that's YOUR OPINION". When Jesus says that everyone who is of the truth hears his voice, Pilate responded "what is truth?" People who believe reality exists can have a conversation about where they disagree and "let reality be the final arbiter". People who don't believe in absolute truth are hopeless deniers of the equation A=A.
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    • Posted by C_S 13 years, 1 month ago
      "The reality of AS movies is that they don't show in a lot of theaters because, well, most people would rather watch the usual Hollywood drivel."

      The reality is that Part I started small and tried to use word of mouth to grow, and the word of mouth was - outside the groupies - quite terrible. And deservedly so, because it was a very slapped-together movie that disappointed a lot of the base and was ignored outside the base.

      So Part II canned the "start small and grow" release pattern in exchange for wide release. But as a sequel to a bomb nobody saw, and one getting horrific reviews as well, it too sank without a trace. It actually did worse than Part I. The moment that theaters were no longer contractually obligated to show it - that is, after the fourteenth day - theaters dropped it like the proverbial hot brick, and overnight it lost five-sixths of its screens.

      The odds that Part III might actually make any money in a theatrical distribution are pretty much zero. Aglialoro would be smarter to release it direct to video, so that its tiny little audience won't have to wait, but then that gives Aglialoro less of the ego-boosting "Look at me, I'm a movie mogul" he seems to need.

      If you make a sequel to a terrible bomb sequel to a terrible bomb, don't expect a profit. That seems like a simple enough idea.
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    Posted by darren 13 years, 1 month ago
    LOL! What a bunch of amateurs!

    Hey, Harmon! Hey John! If this move is "for you" — meaning, for those who have already read the novel and will no doubt purchase the DVD regardless of how bad the movie is — then why bother releasing the movie theatrically? Just go direct-to-DVD. You sound as if you're already convinced (perhaps with good reason) that part III will also be a box-office failure. (Just a guess, but I wonder if it has something to do with the weak screenwriting and directing? Nah, couldn't be that. It must be the "irrationality" of the movie-going public.)

    Additionally, I've read some online film-finance sources that indicate the previous DVD sales of parts I and II were actually quite weak.

    I'm sure the failure, critical and commercial, of the AS trilogy will not hurt future sales of the novel (though it might possibly hurt future attempts by more competent producers to film or televise it), but it behooves us *cineastes* to ask the following:

    On John's blog, prior to the November 2012 election, Aglialoro asserted in an interview that if Obama won a second term, there would be no point in producing the final part of the trilogy. Alas, Obama did win a second term. So why is he proceeding with the project?

    Just curious. I expect him to duck the question entirely.
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    • Posted by C_S 13 years, 1 month ago
      Well, of *course* he knows a theatrical release will be a money loser. And of *course* Part III will bomb, just like Parts I and II. That writing's been on the wall for a long time. But he's having too much fun playing bigshot to give it up, and he's apparently found a way to do it by grifting Other People's Money.

      What he doesn't get is that the last two films were for him too. The whole trilogy-on-the-cheap adventure has been the story of what happens when there's a mismatch between ego and ability. Aglialoro got to strut around in his movie-producer glasses, as he created a string of stinkbombs that have enwreathed the novel in eau d'isaster so rank that nobody's going to consider another adaptation, let alone one that isn't wretchedly bad, in our lifetimes.

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      • Posted by darren 13 years, 1 month ago
        >>>The whole trilogy-on-the-cheap adventure has been the story of what happens when there's a mismatch between ego and ability.

        Bingo.
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