So here's an idea - levy fines against the EPA for false accusations

Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 6 months ago to Politics
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And fire whomever in the EPA brings such ridiculous suits.

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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    what I mean is that he might have been compelled to strangle
    instead of creating the EPA. . he was a special guy! -- j
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There may be some "technicalities," but, yep, if an individual, under color or law (I work for the government and am here to help you) violates a right (due process: Andy was never heard before the imposition of the fines), he is INDIVIDUALLY liable.
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  • Posted by Eudaimonia 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Perhaps, but more likely that, knowing the consequences, he might never have started a political career in the first place.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    by this logic, then, Nixon who created the EPA would never
    have had the chance to resign!!! -- j
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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 5 months ago
    if we fine the EPA for its mistakes, that's like giving the bank robber
    more money which we have to fight to get back .......

    or like the self-abuse of over-withholding taxes with the IRS
    which we have to endure a paper nightmare to get back!!! -- j
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  • Posted by DeanStriker 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    interesting link, on which I opt to refrain from comment.

    Each and every human needs to seek one's own personal solution, never bowing to the demands of others.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I continue to look askance at the trend for amending something that no longer exists. Let me sum up your new Constitution lest you forget what you who cast ballots for GOP or Demos supported the last three go rounds.

    Bill of Rights beginning with the requirement for probable cause and all the follow up stuff such as attorneys, warrants, courts, judges, juries etc. now reads, "suspicion of terrorism." Terrorism is not defined. Without those amendments and the rest of the first ten the balance of the document is moot.

    Don't blame me... I didn't vote for left wing fascism - and I'm not the one drooling over Trump and the rest of the right wing of the LEFT.

    Besides even under the old Constitution you couldn't bring a case against the government without it's permission. You should have changed that a couple hundred years ago.

    I feel forced into publishing herein the Couch Potato Poem again.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I posted a sign on my flammables cabinet saying that I would pay a fine for any of my EPA violations when they paid theirs for the Colorado Au mine.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The other problem is that the taxpayers would have to pay the fine. Prosecute or sue its board members individually instead.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 10 years, 5 months ago
    Everything our society, our way of life, has been blamed for is the culpable result of those that point their fingers.
    A reminder to those that point their fingers is that there a 3 fingers pointed right back at them.
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  • Posted by DeanStriker 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry, that would require a HUGE constitutional amendment that our Rulers will never let get to 1st base. Entities of most-all types exempt their boards from personal liability for virtually anything they might do, and GOVERNment is the worst of the lot!
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  • Posted by samrigel 10 years, 5 months ago
    The problem with the levying of fine on the EPA is that it is taxpayer that will be paying those fines. Unless a system is put in place so the fines come from their operating budget and/or the personal accounts of those that manage the Dept.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 10 years, 5 months ago
    Yes, this article was almost next to the other one I found. This man has done nothing that the EPA should have any involvement in, and here is the real problem with them: Their ability to adjudicate and levy fines. They should be like any other part of government and have to file a complaint with a court, and deem the person in violation, then the judge levies the fines or whatever is needed. That is where the whole system breaks down, and now you have an agency that is unaccountable, and can be used as a tool of the administration. We had e coli going off the next door property in huge amounts and the EPA was not interested, and let the State be their minions, who fined the idiot after 3 years 900.00. Whats the difference?
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  • Posted by wiggys 10 years, 5 months ago
    It may be irrelevant the FACT that this man followed all know regulations the situation is now winding up in a court and the court will determine the outcome. And some still think the usa is a free country.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 5 months ago
    Who is going to levy a fine in the "You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" environment of Washington? To date, all I've seen of the executive, legislative and judicial so-called branches of government is that they act like a single large family that has a few interior squabbles, but nothing is ever done to change things in a substantive manner. Come to think of it, they act like a Royal Family, at that.
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  • Posted by DanShu 10 years, 5 months ago
    Bad idea !! The problem is whoever is in power will have the say on whats false or not. Both party's are controlled by Progressive's so who knows what they will claim is true.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 5 months ago
    Just put the EPA out of the misery it inflicts on far too many citizens.
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