Donald vs Hillary - Disgusting or Hillarious
Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 10 months ago to Politics
"On one side we have a rich, fat, old, white, blonde-haired, blue-eyed, candidate with an unpleasant voice, an arrogant manner, and an authoritarian personality. On the other side we have Donald Trump. Apart from sex, they’re like two megalomaniacal peas in a pod.What is a voter to do? Imagine a ballot with Benito Mussolini and Eva Perón. Choose one. Go ahead. "
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AFAIK, there is no quorum-type requirement on voters.
1) dens get 32% let's say of electoral college republican get 33.5% and an independent gets 34.5%. Does the independent win?
2) only a small number of citizens actually vote, say 10%. Is the election still valid or is it required that a certain percentage of citizens vote
The idea of a consumer strike is also a promising one, but the government party encourages FUD among us that only serve the purpose of enhancing the government's power and preventing united efforts that would change the situation in favor of liberty. We have to concentrate on one goal, reducing government power. We must stop taking the bait and giving 'one more chance' to lying looters in the statist party. They have proven repeatedly that they don't deserve support or consent.
We are tallking about consent.
When someone threatens you with force beyond your ability to defend yourself, you are not consenting to their wishes, you are being robbed at gunpoint.
When you cast a vote for continuation of this robbery after decades of evidence, you are giving consent with knowledge of the evil it represents.
Stop giving consent to enslavement by your enemies.
Its our job to awaken their minds to the insidious slavery they are living and to provide a way to break those chains.
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I consider supporting the present system functionally useless and hastening it's demise not only useful but a requirement - the opening of a counter revolution in rhetorical terms.
I most certainly do accept the consequences and have done so for fifty one years. That was the first time I swore to uphold the Constitution. The mission now is to get it back. Looking at it objectively I can only say what does this government have to do with that document?
My useful phrase for that is A citizen has rights and responsibilities. Without both the other must surely fail. (The exception of course are the draft laws.)
I still applaud the Perot supporters. they accomplished one great objective. That of forcing recognition of the reality of the present system and it's perversions. For that Thank You for serving your country. It was not a waste nor the wrong thing to do. It was a necessary step.
I supported Perot because I didn't want either Bush or Clinton (damn here we are again), I would have preferred Bush as the lesser of two evils but as a consequence of Perot we got Clinton. I accept that I helped elect him.
People who support evil are by definition evil people. A left winger would undoubtedly say that about me.
The degree of evil is irrelevant. What is relevant is their definition of evil or translated what are their morals, values, and standards. If any.
Left Wing fascist socialism is evil.
Both eventual choices belong to political parties which are left wing, socialist and fascist in that they both support government control over citizens to one degree or another.
I support the opposite.viewpoint
Under the choices allowed A, B or blank the only moral choice is not playing the game of Evil.
My conscience is clear, I maintain self respect. I have not indulged in play pretend. What others choose to do is their choice. At least for a while. That's getting problematical.
What choice you want is unboxed. You get to choose according to your ...personal beliefs. You still may and can say I'm choosing the best of the best choices. And if your choices are the ones that rigged the election don't worry be happy.
As long as people that call themselves conservatives continue to vote for the GOP there will be no change in the growth of government and the loss of liberty. However, more and more people are coming to the rational conclusion that the GOP is no more an answer than the Dems. Assuming my goal is to work for a peaceful, political solution, encouraging thoughtful, rational people to come to that conclusion is worthwhile and the seeds I plant will grow and spread, and the voting power will be transferred to more ethical candidates outside the two parties.
Current lineup , approximately.
All Democrats are a lost cause they do not have quite enough for a solid majority.
Most Republicans are Democrats by another name RIN
Some Republicans might be convinced to join the third largest group.
Non-Voters, Independents, Third Party Voters, and Write-in Voters.
Add in those that might be inclined to register but not vote.
Non-Registrants, Non -voters, and Republicans who are faithful to a party that is not faithful to them.
That's your target audience. They also number more than the Democrats.
If there were two candidates- one of them Hitler and the other Trump- would it make sense to not vote at all? Or to vote for the lesser evil.
Unless of course the two evils are equally evil then it doesn't matter what you do.
The answer is vote for liberty by removing your support from both the GOP and the Dems.
You may be right about the entire field of candidates offered by the GOP and the Dems. The concentration of power tempts them all, and none can be trusted. The real solution is decentralization of power, and, as you noted earlier, neither of the parties want their power reduced.
In a religious sense I don't believe there is any such thing as a Democrat or Republican Christian. One cannot serve two masters and adhere to the demands of two oaths. Ergo sum it's two oxymorons.
In a secular sense you either honor your oath of Citizenship to the Constitution or you don't.
People who didn't serve in the military or other public offices and were born in the country don't have to make that choice with one sort of exception . Their citizenship was bought for them by others if they are female.
The excepton.....
If they are male they come under the Military Conscription Act where in they are coerced by threat of jail and fines to volunteer and bought and paid for with college loans and promises of government jobs and a little side benefit the promise of no jail time nor fines.
Involuntary Volunteers the ultimate oxymoron.
All you have is your conscience. One you said the magic words 'lesser of two evils' you made defined the situation and made the choice.' Now go look in the mirror and define self respect.
Every deal that Trump does includes "surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons"
By definition, they are conspiracies.
Anyone who thinks they aren't is naive.
"Just like a spin of the roulette wheel"
You think the gambling "industry" is the ethical goal that businessmen should model their actions upon?
There is nothing in my reponse that indicated a legal offense by Trump. Trump acts as a businessman with the ethics of a looter in the Wall Street bankster tradition.
I have no hatred of capitalism. I have a dislike for unethical practices by people who claim to be ethical productive businessmen.
Trump and his attorneys created contracts in his deals to reduce his risk and increase his profit as much as possible at the expense of other shareholders. Trump is not unique in this; it is accepted practice in business. Being accepted does not make it ethical, nor is it a criticism of 'capitalism' to point out the faults of current accepted unethical practices.
I think that Trump wil act in the same manner if he is elected POTUS That is not acceptable practice for any president.
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