Still delusional: the USDA attempts to regulate school lunches

Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 8 months ago to Education
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What I love is the continual denial of reality.

"thinks students' consumption of fruits and vegetables will rise once schools fully adapt to the healthy eating guidelines... We can't give up hope yet"

What part of braindead don't these people understand? You can't force choice! It hasn't ever worked and never will!
SOURCE URL: http://consumer.healthday.com/kids-health-information-23/education-news-745/kids-eating-less-fruits-and-vegetables-at-lunch-since-government-mandate-702649.html


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  • Posted by $ Susanne 8 years, 8 months ago
    Is Sarah Amin related to Idi?

    I remember when school lunches were described as "manager's choice" and comprised of leftovers, waste minimization meals, and things like we used to call "Dog Meat Pizza", "Fido Foo Yung", and "Kitten a'la King". I think that we should maintain standards so that kids do get food that is at least edible and palatable, but mandating what they eat, as if they were in a cafeteria in the local collective's factory commissar(ry) hall in Volgograd , instead of allowing them good choices of decent food, is wrong wrong wrong.

    They're also missing the REAL point - it's not school lunches that are causing the problems... it's the continued promotion of a sedentary and obedient lifestyle that is doing far more harm than a slice of vegetarian pizza.
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    • Posted by XenokRoy 8 years, 8 months ago
      Thanks, good post, but are the kids not in the commissary hall in ? or at least the beginnings of it?
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      • Posted by $ Susanne 8 years, 8 months ago
        They are being well conditioned to be right-thinking and stalwart, obedient workers of the People's Collectives, under the careful and strict guidance of their appointed, er, elected overlords and party bosses...
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    • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 8 months ago
      Exercise habits (or lack thereof) are no more a regulator's business than is diet.

      (I don't understand the reference to Idi Amin, since no one has suggested cannibalism.)
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      • Posted by $ Susanne 8 years, 8 months ago
        Except Physical Education at one time used to be as much a mandated part of school curriculum as English or Math or Science. You could be denied graduation from high school if you didn't have your required 6 Semesters of PE - not so with "failing to eat your Michelle Mandated Vegetable and Fruit Ration".

        At least... not yet. Give them time, tho...

        Idi's last name - was Amin. Dictator. Denier of reality. Very VERY large man - apparently no malnutrition in his early years. Nor later, when he would invite his political rivals for lunch, or at least a quick bite...
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  • Posted by Lucky 8 years, 8 months ago
    On top of the bad aspects mentioned, this promotion of fruit and veg, will create antipathy. Despite the paleo diet claims, fruit and veg really are beneficial. This pushing will cause students to consume less.
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    • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 8 months ago
      Paleo Diets include LOTS of veggies, though not so much fruit (which contains fructose in addition to the nice vitamins). Of course, chimps eat mainly fruits during certain seasons...and don't get fat.

      Jan, eats Paleo but sometimes laughs at it
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 8 months ago
    The song "Where Have All The Flowers Gone?" is a leftist anti-war song, written by the Super Lib, Pete Seeger. It has, however, one good line: "When will they ever learn, oh, when will they ever learn?" How old is the phrase about leading a horse to water? The only way you can get people to eat your Soylent Green is to have a totalitarian state, which is not quite yet.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 8 months ago
    When I was in the USAF, we had a good cafeteria line in the mess hall. Why not implement a similar set of menu items in schools?

    Jan
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 8 years, 8 months ago
    We had fairly good food in the cafeteria in my school. I ate there most days for 12 years. And this was not a rich school district by any stretch of the imagination. (Me coming from a forgotten crossroads in Ohio, and all.) Why is it so difficult to get good school lunches now?
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    • Posted by $ Susanne 8 years, 8 months ago
      Simple - back then it was run locally - the district would hire the cooks, servers, etc. and build the lunches themselves. Now, they're contracted out to companies that have the same business model as those that run prisons for the government - how can we make an extra 2.3 cents off each lunch to increase our profit margin? And how far can we underbid the competition to get the contracts, and then balance it all out to still increase our bottom line?

      I deal with contractors all the time, and to those contracting with the dotgov, this is SOP.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 8 months ago
    Well, when I started school, we paid a dollar a week
    for the "food", such as it was(in1958). There was
    sauerkraut, some kind of bread pudding with toma-
    to squished up in it, some kind of mashed potatos
    with yicky little green things distributed through
    them, some kind of stuff called "greens", and
    kids were expected to eat these dishes. My
    second grade teacher, as I recall, would typical-
    ly let a kid off from eating a dish if he ate some
    of it. I had been taught to eat my food; I would
    sit in that lunchroom for a long time after my
    classmates had gone back to class, trying (and,
    usually, failing) to eat my food, before throwing
    in the towel and going back to class.When I was
    in the second grade, after New Year's my mother
    started packing my lunch, which was, of course,
    a great relief. I think I was in the third grade
    when I heard of a rule made by the principal that
    every pupil had to eat three bites of everything
    on his plate. Of course, this did not affect me
    personally, as I was now brown-bagging it; I do
    not remember how strictly it was enforced; in
    the case of a child's allergy, it would have been
    an outrage. But why not just take your own
    lunch to school in the first place?
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