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Welfare Is the Highest Paying Entry-Level Job in 38 States

Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 8 months ago to Economics
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Rand would ask: At whose expense?
No wonder we are going broke. We are taking care of an increasing number of the indolent in our nation and attracting some of the indolent from other nations too. The welfare state is ruining us. Here you can have a better life than most around the world without even lifting a finger.
This is not how you attract the brightest and best, increase opportunity or wealth. This is how you redistribute it and garner votes. The statists do not want us to work... or think for ourselves.


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  • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello Technocracy,
    They were fast and terrifying. I like the end... how they came up with a plan to defeat them came straight from H. G. Wells.
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How do we stop someone from stealing? Well, they need to be weaned off stealing; can't just stop them cold turkey! After all our congressmen and senators and presidents are never weaned off the public tit - full salaries for life, not including dividents from the really large thefts.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 8 months ago
    OA has said it all.
    Is there anyone outside of this forum who'll listen? It seems to me that more and more people every day have become comfortable with our ever increasing welfare state. It's as if they accept it as the price that must be paid for the largesse of what they perceive as our form of government. Freedom? They haven't a clue.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In one of the listed states (one near the top) we found out that there is a lot of piglet sharing. The welfare agents are not allowed to show up unannounced, but instead have to make appointments. So you round up all the children you need to meet the number you claim. Your relative in another city borrows your own piglets later for her inflated claim.

    The welfare people are promoted based on how many "clients" they have, so there is no incentive to correct the numbers downwards.

    How to get out of the mess? Bonuses for agents who get people off welfare. No additional money for additional kids. Too many kids? Tough!

    My favorite way out is just to end welfare, cold turkey, because that'll topple the little empires that exist within the scheme. Churches can pick up the slack. What, require someone to hear a prayer to get a bowl of soup? Doesn't bother THIS atheist!
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 8 months ago
    Even the appalling numbers presented are not all encompassing. Virginia is listed at number 37 with $14,870 per year in theft-generated funds. That is for a single piglet. However, their litters are usually large. This is a list of thefts that can be collected by a single swine with 3 sucklings (compiled from a detailed questioning of a social worker in VA several years ago. The amounts are likely to be higher today):
    Apartment /housing 1500
    Utilities 400
    Food 400
    WIC 100
    Med 500
    Cable 30
    Cell phone 30
    Home phone 25
    Car repair 50
    Entertainment 75
    Clothes 100
    Child care 1500
    Additional for children 500
    All of the above are tax free/exempt. How stupid does one need to be to work, unless it’s under the table?
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  • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello eddieh,
    Hunger is a great motivator. I would rather they were out picking vegetables than trying to eat my brain... I too believe that if the government got out of the welfare business people would fill those positions. Young people need entry level jobs. When I was a teen I wasn't too proud to clean out stalls, feed animals, or bale and stack hay or do any number of agricultural jobs. I also believe, as wiggys does, that the government will not get out of the way as long as there are votes to be bought with our money or credit. It will end some day and there will be great anguish and finger-pointing, but many will still point the finger at the wrong people. The government will have convinced them that it was all the fault of those evil job creators.. the capitalists.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello wiggys,
    No doubt. We are well beyond broke. We are now running out of credit! My manufacturing business is only surviving because there are so few of us left. A large portion off my work now is repairing tools made overseas. I build far fewer prototype tools than I used to and much of my new work is going straight into production. Most of it is military and if it weren't sensitive and kept in the states by law I probably would be out of business.
    When we are all gone who will support the moochers?
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately for us the government will not reduce under any conditions the payment to the welfare recipients so as you say the "zombie apocalypse" will begin or as I believe it has already and it has been going on for sometime.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 8 months ago
    OA we are not going broke we are broke. The manufacturing base in the usa is at a low because of the government rules etc put on the books say from 1960 on and that has been the driver to send manufacturing off shore. It is not coming back so those who are coming here from where ever only know that they are supposed to have an opportunity to improve themselves in the usa while those who were born here in the ghetto environment have no incentive to work so everyone of them gets something from the government because that is how the government employees want and like it. Your observation is very clearly accurate. I am sure you know the answer to the question.
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  • Posted by eddieh 9 years, 8 months ago
    If you remove the "safety net" these people will fill those much need positions in farming and other fields. My question is how do you convince the gov. to start reducing the welfare payouts? It must be done. but it should be done gradually or the zombie apocalypse will begin
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 9 years, 8 months ago
    I think that we must define the term:
    "Highest paying entry-level-job".
    If sitting around watching TV, eating McDonald's, drinking my 40 on the stoop and having sex is a "job" then our country is in real trouble!
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I couldn't agree more. I am actually amazed at the number of young people who resist that system and choose the high road.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello Mamaemma,
    Indeed and though I do not appreciate the particular welfare recipient's attitude any more than was expressed by the author of the letter linked to in the article, I don't hold them totally responsible for taking advantage of a system designed to ensnare them. The government has the most culpability in my mind. They set the stage.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years, 8 months ago
    Very good article. i clicked on links to a couple of other articles, and they were good as well.
    What is so sad about this situation is that any young couple today who get married and have a child are actually making a stupid choice from a strictly economic point of view. It's cataclysmic when taking care of yourself and those you love becomes a "stupid" choice.
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