USS John Warner Shows Off Jumbo Missile Tube During Commissioning

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 9 months ago to Technology
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This is an interesting addition, basically a ballistic missile tube, so that the SSGNs and the Virginia's can all use the same units, both for SEALS and Tomahawks.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 9 months ago
    WoW, Chief!!! . thatsa monster! . and if I were a SEAL,
    I would absolutely Love that mini-sub!!! -- j
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago
      John, the main reason I think they do this is they have spent a lot of money on developing the inserts for these tubes for SEALS as well as Tomahawks. So now, basically, to prepare a sub for a mission you can load one tube with Tomahawks and one with everything the SEALS need to get to a target, and another with their living quarters. It is acyually a sound, efficient design, as it goes to both the Fast Attacks and the SSGN's. Amazing that someone actuall was efficient in something, related to the Govt, but it was the submarine service...
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago
    Great, now the enemy only has to damage one hatch to put the entire system out of commission.
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago
      Well, that is sort of true. But if they do, they will also put the whole sub down, as it is integral to the hull. The chances of damaging the hatch are very small, unless you have an accident, or a near miss with something big. Overall, it is a good improvement as it standardizes all the equipment used for submarine Tomahawk weapons, as they convert the rest. This is the same technology used on the SSBNs converted to SSGN.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago
        Just the first thought that popped into my head when I saw it. I was thinking not of blowing the hatch off, but just stopping it from operating. I am sure that a lot of thought went into the development process including dealing with that very cursory observation.
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        • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago
          Well, it is a good question, as it does become a single point of failure part. I do know that there are manual ways to operate these hatches, so some thought went into it. But some damage could effectively stop it. But that is true of almost any system, so the only thing is to engineer around it.
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    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 8 months ago
      It is forward of the pressure hull, in a freeflood space, behind the sonar dome. It is not a significant liability.

      Subs are damn tough. Below is a link to a pictures and info on a LOS ANGELES Class sub that ran into an underwater mountain at speed. Also, note the freeflood space damaged. Pressure hull is behind this, One person died, from smashing his head during the collision.

      http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista...
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      • Posted by $ 8 years, 8 months ago
        Thoritsu, I was active when that happened. There were the usuual stories that she hit the "uncharted mountain" but there was also a lot of stories she was on a spec op and got too close to what the she was listening to. Note in the picture the top port side hull is pushed in. A lot of the sphere also looks pushed in. I also work with someone who was onboard, the guy who was killed was catapulted from his rack and hit his head. He tells me that he was just as happy to be on watch that time.
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        • Posted by $ 8 years, 8 months ago
          Also, they used what is known as a "freshwater" dome. The fresh water gives them a predictable platform to make calculations for bearing on. Tridents have a saltwater dome, but I don't know if the fast boats have changed to them.
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