Noooooo....

thank you for fixing that...I got all itchy for a bit.

thank you. brain let go there. seriously-I need a break and a frozen bag of peas on my right eye. ouch!

am I high jacking OUR site for your agenda? AS a member of the Gulch I am part of OUR SITE - and I was responding respectfully to your comment - r u not able to respond back in a rational respectful n objective way as Ayn Rand would do and as this site is dedicated too do - as for your answer above it makes no sense when you say 1. this country WAS founded on natural rights and then the next sentence you say it was NOT founded on natural rights - which do you mean? and who is AR?

see above. no ums needed

Shall we pray? Hey..maybe I should change my name to "LetsPray"...whatd'ya say??

Um....... ?

AK, this country was founded on natural rights. nothing in our founding docs have anything to do with christianity. neither does AR. are you highjacking our site for your own agenda?

KHalling - I am confused on what you do believe in - you say above that you can see the point but not the harm in other atheist removing In God We Trust from our National eyesight - and that you see that in light of being objective not as an atheist - But if you were being objective and rational you would realize that tearing down the motto from which this countries founders followed and from which this country was formed and from which it receives its foundations on you would realize that your view is any thing but objective - for instance do you think that it is ok to dismantle that fabric of a societies ethical and moral code and belief structure that it is founded on is the logical thing to do when if done would cause a collapse of that countries social, moral and legal structure - and as such do you therefore think that that is a good idea and one you see no harm in? R you sure you are being "objective" in your rational view that to keep a country in stable order you should remove its founding tenants - because what atheist propose in removing those words In God We Trust is to remove the moral & ethical fabric of our society - and they want to do so simply because they do not believe - what rational sense does that even make? Your "seeing no harm" in what atheist do to remove In God WeTrust sounds more of an atheist view than an objectivist view if you look at your view rationally -

Hi - Sorry to disagree but you may have the same eye site as Ayn in that Christianity is not a philosophy (nor a religion for that matter) though with so many denominations it may seem so - True Christ-I-anity is a Daily Spiritual and Intellectual Relationship with The Living Being who Created all that is seen and all that is not seen - as such He is not a way of Thinking but a Way of Living both Spiritually and Intellectually and via Friendship and Fellowship with Him comes oneness with Him and Him thru us -

God is Rational - His Word says that Love is The Greatest but that Wisdom is The Principle Thing - So even in His Love He is Wise - and to me that's pretty Rational -

I have listened to a couple of interviews of Rand and her view of helping the poor was one of doing so because one wanted too - not because they were told too or because they had a religious teaching to do so - and in that regard as a Christian I agree somewhat with her - except for 2 thoughts in this area 1. The Book was written to let us know right from wrong and to let us also know the Thoughts of God. Gods thoughts in helping the poor are to help them - But He did not rule out wisdom in this area and obeying this way of Life of giving to others was to be done out of compassion and Love for ones fellow man - not out of a religious dogma - take Jesus for example the Expressed Image of Father God - Scripture says that He had "compassion on the poor, the hungry, etc." It did not say He had a dogma or a religious belief to help the poor - no - He had/has "compassion" in His Heart for the poor. As a Christian I give because I want to and do so because I choose too - not because I have a religious "rule" to follow. But I follow my heart and Gods Inward Leading on where and to whom to help and or to give too - its my free volition - AND Gods Will to Give - that's why He had it put in His Book - so that we would know that it's ok to give to the poor and to help them and do so because our hearts and our minds tell us too - I think Ayn missed it because she saw it as a religious duty - like a nun "telling" you what to do - which I agree with her I would not like -

To give you a answer, not that I owe one to you. There was a day in my life when I was laying in the bottom of a patrol boat in the S Vietnam delta, the boat was on fire, three of the crewmen were dead, everyone except me was wounded, we were taking fire from both shores and the boats motor was shot to hell. At that moment I knew I was going to die very, very soon and there was nothing that was going to stop that.

Knowing I was going to die I asked Jesus to save my soul as the Chaplin told us he would. After that brief pause I went back to doing my job and the fire stopped from the East shore, as it stopped another patrol boat came around a bend in the river up stream from us and engaged the other shore. In ten minutes they were over to us and began tending to our needs.

I hope you never reach a point in your life like that, but if you do, know there is a God and he has made a way for you.

maybe your seeing it that way because you are viewing people and not looking to view God - after all if HE is real you can bet HE will let you find HIM if you seek HIM - after all HE - if HE is God - could certainly reason that out due to HIS Intellect and His Love Nature - even that would be rational for Ayn if it were brought before her - then should not her followers follow suit - AND if it had been brought to her and she dismissed it - then she dismissed rational thought out of emotionalism - not reason - and or she dismissed it because her idea of GOD was religion as viewed from viewing mans differences in worshiping God - but again if so then her view of God was based on man kind and his lifestyle or lack of Godly Life style which is again viewing man - she missed it by not viewing or seeking GOD -

Really bambie, some of us are insulted by references like this. You would NEVER post something like this about a persons color or sex or school they went to or even what state they choose to live in, but you feel perfectly at ease making fun of a persons choice of religion. It's beyond immature. It is childishly disgusting and very, very sad.

Is it an effort to prop up your own insecurity with the issue? Or do you just like insulting people who would never harm you???

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