Jimmy Kimmel on the Killing of Cecil the Lion

Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 9 months ago to Culture
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This is what we've become? He who has the biggest public emotional reaction wins??
Not to mention the witch hunt that is now in hot pursuit.
Jimmy Kimmel... Jackass.

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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So far your ability to actually present any form of logical or reasonable argument has been 100% absent. You only write in ambiguities, casting aspersions with no substance.

    "It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." --Thomas Jefferson to M. D'Ivernois, 1795.
    "The equal rights of man and the happiness of every individual are now acknowledged to be the only legitimate objects of government." --Thomas Jefferson to M. Coray, 1823."Our legislators are not sufficiently apprised of the rightful limits of their power: that their true office is to declare and enforce only our natural rights and duties and to take none of them from us. No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him; every man is under the natural duty of contributing to the necessities of the society, and this is all the laws should enforce on him." --Thomas Jefferson to F. Gilmer, 1816."The true foundation of republican government is the equal right of every citizen in his person and property and in their management." --Thomas Jefferson to S. Kercheval, 1816.

    Jefferson was VERY clear that an individuals rights are paramount. An individuals rights, are those HE individually sees fit to pursue provided he does not affect the natural rights of another.

    Prostitution does not now or EVER force on either party something they do not consent to, meaning that BOTH parties are exercising their individual liberties.

    Perhaps YOU are the one who needs to study since you have yet to provide ANY substance to support your completely erroneous arguments, while at the same time you obfuscate the issue.
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  • Posted by IndianaGary 9 years, 9 months ago
    On the topic of killing Cecil (unlike most of the posts here), I'd like to make a point.

    I support Big Cat Rescue, an organization dedicated to eliminating the trade of big cats in the United States. Making a "pet" of an animal that can tear your arm (or any other extremity) off is a really bad idea. Cubs are often taken away from their mothers far sooner that they should be and then abandoned when they grow too big to be a child's toy. It takes serious resources to maintain big cats and, short of a well-funded, private zoo, I don't think they belong in captivity. They are far too dangerous.

    That said, I see real value in managing the population of large predators, and think that hunting on private land should be encouraged. It should, however, be done humanely, not the way Cecil was killed. First, he was lured away from his protected location, then shot with an arrow and allowed to suffer for 40 hours before finally being killed. It sounds like this particular hunt was badly mismanaged.
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    Posted by AmericanGreatness 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The profound irony is that you reject the morality of Judeo-Christian principles which make the freedom/liberty you and I both cherish possible.

    It's exactly that rejection of common knowledge that dooms us to repeat history. Unfortunately, people like you fail to learn from it.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Um...some humans want to kill a human over this...
    This is relevant to where we are headed in this country so don't knock it to the way side.
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    Posted by AmericanGreatness 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As the Founding Fathers, and the cumulative knowledge of Western Civilization (thousands of years of human existence) knew, we are endowed by our Creator with our rights.

    If they exist simply because a person exists, why do all people not have freedom and liberty? Why is it that you can pick virtually any spot on the globe and for the overwhelming majority of time that people have lived there throughout human existence, they did not have freedom, liberty, or property rights?
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah. See the third Planned Parenthood undercover video? Like the first one, I couldn't get through it. The third one is a doosy. You get to see mangled babies. Nice. Not a peep in social media.
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  • Posted by blackswan 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    since when are animals rational?!? And since when is man not man?!? What have you been reading? If you use the Bible (or equivalent), then God told man to dominate nature. If we're using objectivism, then man's mind leads to the dominance of nature. Clearly, the animals can't compete with man on rationality, so they don't count in this discussion.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, LS's face. I can imagine her grimace at the unintended implications of my ill chosen words. I'm certain I would have felt immediate need for clarification. :)
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Certainly nature... another younger stronger lion wanting to move in could have done him in, or a pack of hyenas... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkUKI...
    No. I don't think this guy intended anything like profiting from animal fights and suffering like Michael Vick did. Dog fights set up by men for entertainment is definitely different than a hunter whose object is a quick merciful kill, though unfortunately it doesn't always end so. Intention and motivation are very different.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've always like that song and never really knew why... but now whenever I hear it I'm going to envision the guy having to jump back and forth between the keyboard and flute. I used to play the flute... that's a brutal song...withOUT having to play the keyboard TOO!
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    Posted by AmericanGreatness 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You really need to read/study the Founding Fathers, and the Declaration of Independence... pay special attention to the part about "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God... endowed by their Creator".

    They did not want a theocracy, but they absolutely based their beliefs, and the founding of America, on Judeo-Christian principles. That is an undeniable fact for anyone with knowledge of history of Founding.

    What is it about these founding principles/facts that you find so displeasing and/or supernaturally unable to accept?
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