Jimmy Kimmel on the Killing of Cecil the Lion

Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 9 months ago to Culture
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This is what we've become? He who has the biggest public emotional reaction wins??
Not to mention the witch hunt that is now in hot pursuit.
Jimmy Kimmel... Jackass.


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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    AG is a superior knower of all things moral. I'm waiting for him to whip out a bible and start pounding. (Or a bale of hay.)
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ok here is logic to satisfy both the Atheist, (Big Bang/Evolutionist) And the Religiously based Christian.

    Evolutionist/Atheist:
    "Survival of the fittest" is a phrase that originated from an evolutionary theory as a way of describing the mechanism of natural selection. The biological concept of fitness is defined as reproductive success. In Darwinian terms the phrase is best understood as "Survival of the form that will leave the most copies of itself in successive generations."

    Herbert Spencer first used the phrase – after reading Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species – in his Principles of Biology (1864), in which he drew parallels between his own economic theories and Darwin's biological ones, writing, "This survival of the fittest, which I have here sought to express in mechanical terms, is that which Mr. Darwin has called 'natural selection', or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life.
    We also have the "Food Chain" which is also a function of Nature, where on Land and given differing circumstances MAN is the top of the food chain.

    MAN kills Lion, Takes head, give meat to villagers for food, All is right with the world "Get over it."

    Christian/Creationist:
    Genesis 9:3
    New International Version
    Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

    New Living Translation
    I have given them to you for food, just as I have given you grain and vegetables.

    English Standard Version
    Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.

    MAN kills Lion, Takes head, give meat to villagers for food, All is right with the world "Get over it."


    There ya go, Logic from both sides, so Man kills Lion, move on...
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  • Posted by Zero 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not to be rude, AG, but you didn't provide ANY explanation.
    As OBJ's most of us would say prostitution is not morally wrong, per se, but rather it's morality is based on the motivations and circumstances of those involved.
    A poor woman selling herself to provide for her children is not immoral - just unfortunate.
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I mean I would pay $2,000.00 for a couple hours with Shania Twain....I would not pay more than that...but I would pay 2g's
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why is Prostitution morally wrong? Whose morals?

    Define who is personally harmed.

    This is a basic value for value proposition...between two consenting individuals voluntarily entering into a contract time and service for money which is the tool by which value is determined.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Does ANY body stop for a second and think what they're asking for when they condemn these trophy hunts? What the consequences would be for the PEOPLE in the area and for the ANIMALS too? I can't believe I'm getting so many emotional arguments instead of logical-end result comments on an AS site. Just proves how screwed were ALL going to be soon. WHERE IS JOHN GALT?
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    Posted by AmericanGreatness 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    For the same reason infidelity is wrong. For the same reason cheating is wrong. For the same reason that kicking your dog is wrong. For the reason being a con artist is wrong. For the same reason any number of moral hazards are wrong.

    But, if you actually need to ask that question, no amount of explanation will enable you to understand.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 9 months ago
    I don't get it. Who cares if Kimmel makes an issue of this? The guy sounds like a semi-criminal.

    Agree, animals don't have rights, but that is not a reason to abuse them. Not to say hunting is abuse.

    Note to self, not to shoot Cecil, or a favorite rhino.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    why is prostitution morally wrong? Seriously, I continually have to look at what site I am on!
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "selective reading of AR's work as a means to justify sociopathic behaviour" good grief! what the hell site do you think you are on! I guarantee you will lose votes with this kind of anti-Rand rand with no substance to back up your claims. Yes, Man over nature.
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    Posted by DancingDon 9 years, 9 months ago
    I wonder what percent of Objectivist wannabe's are just using a selective reading of AR's work as a means to justify sociopathic behaviour.
    I think Kimmel's erection comment is probably right on in this case. As well as being good stand up comedy.
    Very easy to just blank out and ignore all recent animal cognition research and choose instead to continue to believe the meat machine myth. Hey, they're just "dumb animals". So what's the big deal?
    Just pause for a moment and contemplate the 40 hours between being wounded, then pursued, and finally killed - from the lion's perspective. Then think about the mental state of one who would intentionally and even gleefully bring this about.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 9 months ago
    Jimmy Kimmel needs more to do with his life than worry about this
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  • Posted by AmericanGreatness 9 years, 9 months ago
    Prostitution generates a lot of revenue, too, but it's morally wrong. Hunting for food is good and necessary. Hunting just for the kill/trophy says a lot about the person doing it... they care more about a trophy on the wall than life.

    It's unfortunate that the mainstream media doesn't get this exorcised over Planned Parenthood.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    GHBs! everyone's a Born freer around here! unless we can figure out a way to domesticate them as has been disproved by Sigfried and Roy, I say controlled hunting (the controlled part should be based in property rights). so the biggest offenders of lions here (and other beautiful, killing creatures) is a national or state owned situation. That will guarantee starvation and extinction for you tout suite!
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  • Posted by $ prof611 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Two classic fallacies: Red Herring, followed by False Dilemma. Let's try and use a little logic at the Gulch!
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 9 months ago
    Hello LS,
    In Michigan many wildlife conservation and preservation controls by the state depend on hunting fees. Many outfitters and businesses depend on the sport. Many hunt for the meat and many hunt for the trophy; but except for poachers that the laws already address, the meat is usually consumed or donated for consumption. Even that which is not is often essential food for the other wildlife if is left in the field. Mother nature wastes little. Even the coyotes need to eat. In Mich. near the turn of the last century the Deer population was nearly zero and the Elk were completely wiped out. The lumber camps had decimated the populations for sustenance. Since the advent of sport hunting and licensing the populations of both are thriving. We have an Elk population again and the Whitetail deer are at record numbers. That is what the sport has done for conservation. It is the legal hunter, both trophy and meat hunter that fund and respect the conservation regulations and efforts. The monies from these hunters has provided for the continuity of the wildlife... purchased land set asides for animals and plant-life for perpetuity. "To hunt a species to extinction is not logical." Spock

    It is sad that his particular lion was taken, if it was a "protected" animal, but it would appear that the hunter is not to blame for the mistake of the guides. The animus towards him is probably misplaced.

    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by radical 9 years, 9 months ago
    There are much worse things going on. Let's try to solve the problem of humans killing humans.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 9 months ago
    kimmel is an entertainer and all entertainers have a limited amount of brains.
    that said if you hunt for food as I have that is okay. but trophy hunting I don't agree with.specifically safari international.
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    Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 9 months ago
    It would be interesting if he also shed a tear for those unborn babies that are having their body parts harvested for profit by one of his pet Liberal/Progressive organizations, Planned Parenthood!. Jimmy Kimmel is either the biggest idiot or the biggest hypocrite for not being at least a little intellectually honest. Which is it Jimmy? Idiot or hypocrite?
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago
    I've heard some of the emotionalism you mention, but at least Kimmel says explicitly people should act within the bounds of the law and express their opinion with voluntary contributions to a wildlife org.
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