Jimmy Kimmel on the Killing of Cecil the Lion

Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 9 months ago to Culture
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This is what we've become? He who has the biggest public emotional reaction wins??
Not to mention the witch hunt that is now in hot pursuit.
Jimmy Kimmel... Jackass.


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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They ALL are fans of 100% laissez-faire.

    Limited Government and freedom to do what YOU want provided you do no harm to Others.

    Consider the Declaration of Independence.

    Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    I do not recall them making a prohibition on the Oldest Profession.

    If getting a hooker makes you happy, you have done what they intended. In fact the founding fathers participated in sex all over the place, especially Benjamin Franklin when he was in France.

    No matter you have diverted the discussion WAY away from a man killing a Lion which he did legally, took the head as a trophy, gave the villagers the meat for food. Get over it.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Huh? I didn't they were virtuous. But part of hunting is agreeing to their terms. They broke some laws either on purpose or by mistake then compounded it by covering it up...if the story is accurate. BUT THAT IS SUDE BAR TO MY OVER ALL POINT. The hatred of hunting and the lack of ability to recognize all hunting has a trophy aspect to it. It's not free meat like so many think.
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    Posted by AmericanGreatness 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Uh, if you're equating Islam with Western Civlization I see why you don't understand the disconnect.

    Western Civilization is based on Judeo-Christian principles. I highly recommend you read writings of Founding Fathers(and Milton Friedman for that matter) to save me time explaining and so you can absorb first hand.

    The freedom you cherish can not exist in an immoral society, period.
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    Posted by AmericanGreatness 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My intolerance? Or, are you answering another post?

    I'm quite tolerant, but that does not equal acceptance. Those that do not want to be bound by a moral compass are free to think that way.

    But, it's like believing that 2+2=5. You can believe it, but that doesn't make it so. Again, I would urge you to study the writings of the Founding Fathers, and more recently Milton Friedman, who write correctly and eloquently on the link between freedom/liberty and morality.
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    Posted by AmericanGreatness 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, I do. Some on this site, however, fail to understand that in order to have freedom and liberty (including property rights) requires morality and a legal system that protects those rights.

    Western civilization, and our legal system, are based on the morality of Judeo-Christian ethics. I highly recommend you read the writings of the Founding Fathers. The freedom you value is possible only in a moral society.

    Again, I urge you to do some historical research.
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    Posted by AmericanGreatness 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I highly recommend you read writings of Founding Fathers(and Milton Friedman for that matter) to save me time explaining and so you can absorb first hand.

    Western Civilization, and the founding of America, is based on Judeo-Christian ethics.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Cuz the govt there is 100% virtuous. I 'm curious regarding the research. Shit we tag every canadian goose -those jerks will also try to kill you. No majestic lion is somehow "worth" more than รก frustrating goose. I 'd like some objective reasoning as to why. Is Godzilla worthy of migration study and abused by us? This doesn 't even hit the scale of human death and human destruction through lack of reason.
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  • Posted by IndianaGary 9 years, 9 months ago
    After reviewing some of the emotional comments from numerous religionists on this post, I'm certainly glad we now have an "Ignore" button.
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  • Posted by Zero 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You have to understand, AG, we DO consider ourselves to be VERY moral.

    And we are seldom at odds with the Founding Fathers.

    As for infallibility, well, I'm already on record as taking some minor variance on rare occasion, but not here. This one seems pretty straight forward in OUR book.

    As to where we place her - well, I suppose that's different for each of us, but for me - I consider Ayn Rand to be one of the greatest minds of the 20th century - and in the realm of Philosophy, 2nd only to Aristotle as the greatest mind ever.

    As for She vs the Founding Fathers - yes, in those areas they disagree - I side with Her.
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  • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Societies rise and fall period.

    A moral compass is an individual driver that falls apart in groups large enough to be called a society.

    Even on actions deemed "moral" by close to everyone, the philosophical underpinning for WHY an action is moral or not varies widely.

    Your concept of morality is not the only one in the universe, and based on your intolerance for differing opinions, not even close to being the "highest" or "best" moral stance.
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    Posted by IndianaGary 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Seriously, you are standing philosophy on its head. The "moral compass of Western Civilization" is how we got into our current mess. It comes with Christianity, Islam, and a number of other abominable religions that we can well do without. Objectivism is a philosophy for living on earth, and I would prefer to practice it NOT looking over my shoulder for Cecil or any other members of his species.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    seriously. most of what you just said is irrelevant to the discussion.

    "all of which is largely beside the point. The end focus of Objectivism being to identify a reality conforming metaphysical and epistemological base from which to further identify the guiding principles for maximizing the individuals happiness & success in its life. The life of a rational, self aware, thinking and, yes, caring being. "

    what is your take on fetus organ harvesting? just want to make sure you are consistent and get there is a hierachy and animals are under you.
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    NOBODY here really knows where I personally stand on all these issues. You and I should have a phone conversation sometime, I think you might be flabbergasted.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I get that there were mistakes made and possibly a cover up, and that needs to be dealt with...what I can't understand is the overall hatred for hunting and people don't seem to understand that all hunting is a form of trophy hunting (unless you're living off the land somewhere, but that's not the issue).
    I'm just amazed that people let their emotions take over rather than trying to understand why trophy hunting exists...there are benefits and not just monetary, but humans and animals are both better off for it. BLIND SPOT. I'm seriously stunned by the lunatic over reactions going on...angry mobs sharing one emotional top knot. It's scary!
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