Been using it for years.
Never any problems.
Just think, if they actually go to the fair tax it will throw have the accounting firms out of business.

Yes, we all have advantages or disadvantages, but whether or not they are "fair" or "unfair" may be up for debate. I would agree that focusing on group politics SHOULD be a waste, but those cards are played all the time and have a very real impact. I agree your own efforts have a lot to do with your success.

Yeah, Dino, I've seen some shenanigans take place along those lines for a few decades and they also included ethnicity and gender as well. I could relate some stories that would make you laugh and cry at the same time and some have nothing to do with promotions or hiring. OK, here's one: I was contracted by a very large corporation to get a chemical making control system back on line. Apparently the building was struck by lightning and some controls circuit boards got fried. The down time loss was estimated to be about $300K per day (Yes, that's 300 thousand dollars a day!). The boards could be replaced and the control system back up in about two hours because there was a local supplier about 10 miles away. All we had to do was get the purchasing department to cut a purchase order and drive over and get the boards. Unfortunately, that supplier was not a "certified minority owned business" and a "certified minority owned business" that had the boards was identified in another city that could deliver the boards in three days. There was a standing order from corporate HQ to the purchasing department that "certified minority owned businesses" will always get first choice, even if it costs more. Therefore, we essentially played euchre for three days while the idiots flushed a million bucks down the drain. Laugh or cry? PS: That company has since filed chapter 11.

That Is How Progressives Buy Votes!!! -- j
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The boss said he was paying you for the work you did and paying the men for their work plus alms for their families. How insulting to the male employees!

That depends on what you mean by "worked."

In a recent TV thing which I tuned into on my way somewhere else, one of the women on a panel claimed that if one worked the system completely, one could garner $52k in cash, goods and services.

This is key. The percentage may remain the same, but 'what you have' at a 'poverty' level is different. Example: In the 1980's only rich people had microwaves; now 'poor' people have them.

Jan

Whenever federal government creates a "war" on anything, such as drugs or poverty, you can be pretty sure it will be a complete failure. Nothing efficient gets done at that level. Poor in the 60s did not have welfare, they still had self respect, and they could try to pull themselves out of the situation - regardless of race. Women were paid less, because, as one boss told me, "men have to support families." Dad had warned me I would have to work harder at a job to rise about a man, and I went into adulthood knowing that. Then men stopped supporting their families and the government started using other people's taxes to do so. These federal "wars" are indeed an attempt to create a nation of slaves, and it is working. John Stuart Mill said long ago, to help someone beyond what sets them free is immoral.

I maintain that we all have various "unfair" advantages and disadvantage, that focusing on group identity politics is a waste, and that whether you succeed at something depends mostly on your own efforts.

I didn't mean to say she lied. BTW, the Edison quote is one of my favorites.

Shortly before I retired from the Alabama Dept. of Corrections in 2003, two people I had known for 20 years competed to be promoted to a supervisor's position.
One was white and one was black.
Let m just start by saying that there were blacks better at being a corrections officer than white little me. That out of the way--!
The white competitor had memorized policies and procedures inside-out and was one of the best corrections officers I've ever worked with.
The black competitor was a goofy dope. I won't go into all the stupid things I both saw and heard of him doing.
Guess who affirmative action skin pigment got the promotion?

They are convincing themselves that they can, somehow, violate the laws of thermodynamics.
Such a idiocy can already be successful with ignorant people, hence the continuous effort to dumb down education and exclude early on the seeds of creation (war on boys etc).
Of course, total failure is a given in short order. So let's sit back and enjoy the decline...

The whole point of the Earned Income Credit is to make working worthwhile for the poor by alleviating the drop-off in income when you earn enough money to lose your eligibility for welfare (which is different for each of the many different welfare programs).

To really accomplish that goal, the EIC ought to be even larger and extend to higher incomes. In fact, it should start replacing other welfare programs, at least to the extent those people can work (and I believe most can).

The dollar limit of official poverty gets "re-normed" (upward!) every decade or so. Perish the thought that HHS might ever be able to declare the "war" won and go home.

Stossel failed to ask "How many think it is easier to succeed with dark skin?". Political Correctness and affirmative action has made it very possible to answer that in the affirmative. I've seen it in the workplace, politics, in the media, and academia. Jim Crow is still with us only the face receiving the benefit is a different color, which is a testament to the failure of the civil rights movement. I've worked in large corporate environments and, from about 1975 to present, job postings that say "diverse candidates welcome" always meant white male need not apply. Making white people and white males in particular look foolish, ignorant, weak, the brunt of the joke, or down right stupid and in need of sage advice from anyone other than a white male is the national sport of the advertising and entertainment industries. There are organizations, scholarships, and media outlets reserved for people of color that will not be tolerated for white people because they would be declared racist institutions. Even sports teams can be criticized for being a little too white, but never for being a little too black. Oddly, I mention the Civil Rights Movement, which wouldn't have gone anywhere if it weren't for millions of white people agreeing with its premiss of equal rights and opportunity. Too bad the new Jim Crow has stabbed them all in the back.

The narrative of the left doesn't want you to see or acknowledge any of what I just wrote.

That's a happy state of being reelected for Nancy Pelosi and her ilk.

Love the Edison quote!

I found this:

http://www.cato.org/publications/whit...

I've seen other articles that compare a $60k per year job to welfare, subsidized housing etc, available to a single mother of two. If I find it, I will post a link. Bottom line is: if you don't have a pretty good job, it's more profitable to stay on welfare. That's a sad state to find our country in.

Dependency is the true goal the so-called war on poverty. Dependent people tend to vote for those who foster their dependency. Charity without responsibility is worse than no charity at all. At least with no charity one is forced to do something or die. A charity recipient must be willing to work and create wealth. To be drug free, or at the very least be conscientiously on a rehab program.
If we can put prisoners to doing useful work, why can't we do the same with charity recipients? If they refuse to learn a trade or do an entry level job, then they don't deserve charity in my view.