The Big Moocher Lie

Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago to Government
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Thank you, Progressives. All lives that matter would have been so much better off without you.

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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A government worker could not give a rat's about an actual capitalist producer.
    A government worker only cares about justifying his or her job by factually reporting to a supervisor how they forced a producer comply with some intrusive regulation.
    A written report of latter of the law screwing someone over counts as a feather in the government worker's cap toward the next annual evaluation that can bring a pay raise and even a promotion.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Anybody remember the episode on Mary Tyler Moore episode where she said to the boss, "then the man with 5 children should be paid more than the man with 1 child!" It was great
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wish I could agree with you, Blackswan. This is second hand knowledge, but I have been told repeatedly that companies hire a minority and then hire another person to actually do the job, so the unqualified person keeps the job. They don't drown.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, family lore says the guy was my great grandmothers cousin (she was a Wilson), but based on some of the stuff we know now, maybe we should leave that skeleton in the family closet and close the door. :-)
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  • Posted by mccannon01 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed, blackswan, pay should always be based on what the job is worth and no consideration to what the employees personal life is. I'm sure Stormi's former boss wasn't paying the family men more than the job was worth, but was paying them more than Stormi to keep them based on the perception they needed more due to their situation. He gambled he could pay Stormi less because in his mind she didn't need as much and wouldn't walk. He lost the gamble because he lost Stormi and had to find someone else. In my mind, the guy is a loser/moocher and I wouldn't want to work for him either. Kudos to Stormi for walking away from him and his job.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are sooo correct, blackswan! Promotion and hiring based on anything other than competence can accelerate The Peter Principle and bring ruin to a department, division, or even a whole company. Sometimes it is difficult for a company to get rid of incompetent individuals so they become "free floating apexes" as they are called in The Peter Principle.

    Your last statement is the saddest of all, but it is true. I've seen it. I've been a rather independent type in my programming profession, like the electrician in The Fountainhead, and have worked for many different people. Competence knows no race, ethnicity, or gender, and neither does incompetence. I've always told the competent ones I've worked for, regardless of their race/ethnicity/gender, that I will work for them again anywhere anytime and have had lots of return invitations. As for the incompetent, I don't even leave a business card.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One only has to follow the Democrat Party in particular and the Republican Party which lost it's way since the 1800s to see the validity of mccannons statement. As late as the 1960's Republicans were contributing 80 percent or more of their membership in favor of Civil Rights and ERA attempts while the opposition with a larger number successfully blocked or delayed those changes. Democrats became the Party of the People with Clinton but since then have returned to their historical ways by supporting the Patriot Act which did away with the entire Bill of Rights under certain circumstances which have no constraints. One cannot anymore point the finger at one or the other but both as the new Single Party System. To be kind the Coalition of the Left which has successfully blocked any attempts or methods to remove it other than civil disobedience and ignoring them as they have ignored us.

    They are truly those who believe in government control of the people and with their supporters at all levels define evil.

    Yet even in the national charade there are other choices than supporting evil. In future those who voted approval will become citizens of the new Evil Empire. The rest of will go our own way and some of us will retain loyalty to our Constitutional oath.

    The battle is joined. The questions remaining. Does this mean the Third Revolution has completely succeeded or is their yet time for a counter-revolution? The latter I might add under the Constitution is the only legal side to choose. Ignoring or evading the law Mr. Obama is not the same as amending the law. Regardless of your fundamentally flawed semantics,


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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Having done something like that. Doing without and sacrificing. Eating out, movies, using the library for entertainment, picking up the odd job here and there or getting two or two and half jobs per week. A big money saver was boat sitting. Lived rent free in a marina and often helped others in exchange for parts or other needed items. Then look for upward movement. I started at McDonalds and ended up working on a fiber optics installation crew. One day the dream came true and I'm living on my own boat. One big help came along in the form of the US Census. That was a learning experience. At the very end sold the whooptee and headed South. Why not live on my retirement pay or other investments? That money went to put the offspring int a 30K a year University. She's now an MD and a shrink. My time had no value unless it was used to earn something be it bread and cheese or the means to purchase so why not? You don't have to be on welfare. Usually it's discipline, and exhibit a work ethic. I asked for the first three jobs. The rest asked me. Biggest lesson? Never buy Jack In The Crack burgers. In the middle the Be prepared lesson and see what pops up. I had a Merchant Mariner document from my younger days which back then didn't expire. Contacted MSC and filled out their application. The first assignment sent me into Gulf War Five years later I had the boat, the equipment a six pack license and six months supply of food. But the key is discipline, willingness to work long hours and sacrifice. You don't really have to have cable and wifi and whatever or eat at Applebee's. I have wifi now. No car, no TV and what do you know no debts. gotta tell you though that ship job and MSC sucked. Blood money. I'd rather eat at Jacks.
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  • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Rather than worry about welfare, show how a couple, making minimum wage, can accumulate a decent nest egg over 5 years or so, if they are frugal, live with roommates or relatives, and have a dream. The major costs of living are housing, transportation and food. What would you do to manage those costs, at least until you'd accumulated some assets?
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  • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How the employee spends his money is no one else's business. It's annoying for someone to be spending your money, even if only in their heads. It's none of their business. The only consideration is whether or not the work is worth a certain amount of money. Period.
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  • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    THAT was the correct response to such an asinine statement. Notice that you ended up making a lot more money, possibly more than you'd been asking him for.
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  • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It didn't start with Obama. In fact, it began before Obama was born. Obama is just the latest rider on that runaway train. When the government began the welfare system, and required that the man of the house NOT be present, and no one smelled a rat, I knew then that we were in for some interesting times. Look at EVERY so-called program for "the poor," and notice the traps in them that the village idiot would avoid, but the so-called "experts" in Washington seem to find every time. It's not an accident. Just make sure that you avoid that system. It will save you a lot of grief.
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  • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In the end, it will be COMPETENCE that will win out. If you get the position because of anything other than competence, you will eventually fail. If you're competent, you will succeed. Don't worry about someone who gets in over his head; he will drown. The thing that's most galling is to be competent, and someone assuming that you got your position because of your race, ethnicity or sex.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Alms CG? Probably not. Back in the time period Stormi is referring to, perhaps the boss knew his male employees had a strong work ethic and felt a moral obligation to support their families even if it meant leaving a low paying position for a better one. Therefore, the boss had to pay them more to keep them. Notice Stormi left her position under that boss for better pay, just as a family man would have to do if he wasn't getting paid enough. Maybe her boss learned something when she left.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If they aren't going to dump income tax I don't really care. That's where I'm an all or nothing kinda guy. Fair Tax just means start with one percentage and then start giving sweetheart deals and exemptions and then back to one or two layers. I would doubt if it passed it would include everyone. The left will never give up that much control. The only one is some form of end user consumption tax without Comrade Pelosillynnis Value subtracted add on and embedded this and thats. It's a clear cut case of them versus us. Us being citizens and constitution them being left wing smiley face fascists and Patriot Act. There is no part or parcel of left wing socialist fascism I will accept. Be it moderate right wing of the left cave in a minute on queue republicans or full blow secular progressives. Everything about them must be left - behind. No compromise no quarter.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I had no doubt the whole thing was a money saving method my boss used to cut payroll. It was a small CPA firm. He certainly did not value the men anymore than the women, esp. as I was in his two person ITe section, he just thought he could save money. I did move on to an industrial accounting and tax position for a good deal more money.
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