In all honesty, they're cartoons to me. Almost polar opposites, like they are in place to be as extreme as possible.

They just seem like caricatures of what the mainstream considers a "normal" candidate should be.

How did you come to that conclusion?!?

Thanks Galt's Gulch for all the fantastic comments! I personally think that if Donald Trump were elected President (magically). I think he would be the first cartoon character ever elected President! I can't take the guy seriously! But a lot of conservatives seem to love the guy! WTF! I still don't think he's running and I don't think he will be in the race by the time the first republican primary is underway.

I think that Trump is a blowhard and a showoff who
likes to fire people. From some things I have read
about him, he is apparently not all that much in fav-
or of free enterprise. I want Scott Walker to be the
nominee. Still, I would vote for
Trump over Hillary Clinton, of course,

Yes! . good for John, Harmon, Alex, the full crew
and the economy, too! -- j
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I have an acquaintance that did business with Trump for many years in NYC. He spoke very highly of him and his business sense.

Yes, I'm sure Trump has greased the political wheels at times.

you are right. we dont all have to be dyed in the wool objectivists right off the boat as it were. it takes awhile to understand the philosophy, but in the meantime one can choose to act more and more rationally and thats ok with me

my avarice is getting them out to people who might make more
of a difference for good, having seen them. . they might read AS
and become Quentin Daniels or at least the bum with the white shirt!!! -- j
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In the eyes of many folks, what you describe is thought of by them as a virtue.

The Donald has shown throughout the years his concern for himself...and only himself. He used 'junk bonds' to become wealthy screwing over millions of people, Credit Union's, Business partners, wife’s, communities & employee's yet we are now supposed to believe he has the republic's best interest at heart??
He donated to Obama, Hillary/Bill Clinton and many other Dem's yet he is conservative and cares for the republic?
He has major deals, investments, money & businesses in Saudi Arabia as well as Dubai [muslim controlled areas]. So we see he has his hands in doing whatever the islamist's want to save his interests there.
We see his name everywhere but, real estate searches show he doesn't actually own most of them all sold off years ago! An example of this comes from Atlantic City and the Trump Casino's which he declared bankruptcy on 5 TIMES from 1991-2009, all making him money...he now has a minimal 'holding' in the company, this is the same across the world with his holdings...his mortgages are 84% of his holding’s [not including interest, which for him comes as balloon payments some of which come due while he would be POTUS (if elected)].
Add to this the fact that his NYC announcement speech was funded by him right down to the majority of attendees [he hired actors to attend many paid extra to hold signs], same was found in NH as well. He claims to have the largest followings in Iowa and other stops he has gone too, only a quick search show he is lying about that as well. He is a ‘salesman’ and good at ‘bloviating’.
This man sends up so many red flags I believe he has stock in them… I as others like to hear him say it like [we want to be] it is but how do you believe him is the question of those of us that have looked into the man and his past? I for one cannot.

I thought AS 1 was good, but 2 and particularly 3 just werent up to the standards of movies today.

and with every AS movie set I give away ....... ! -- j
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in their cases, the turds have awakened! -- j
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If Trump works in the same executive manner he describes in his rants he would be the antithesis of Obama, but constitutionally no better than a community organizer with a pen and a phone. IMHO what our nation needs is a return to constitutional government. I want the involvement of our elected officials. In regulation nation, congress has abdicated their powers to the executive and his cabinet. When they right a law giving the rule making authority to the Secretary of HUD or EPA, we then must live under laws that no representative voted on. This is handy for keeping their name off the issues, but in reality it is government without representation. That led to big changes a couple of centuries ago.

So, Trump saying he will build a wall and make Mexico pay for it ignores the writing of a bill, the debate, the amendment, the vote, sending it to the senate, finding the appropriate committee, the debate, the amendment, the vote, the resolution between house and senate versions, and finally presentation to the executive branch for signing to become law. What he is saying is food for the low information voters in the republican party.

did you flag this?

Anybody that wanted to increase their own fame and notoriety and has a long history of doing whatever it takes to do that.

This is a site dedicated to reason. No place for your dystopic fantasies about an evil god named satan who rules the world.

Wish I could say the same about the average liberal.

That may be true. At present I have no way of knowing. What is most important, however, he is certainly perceived as a truth teller. It's a matter of who would say those undiplomatic things that no other politician is willing to say if he didn't believe them?

He's a showman. PT Barnum with clown hair.

He is telling people the lie-du-jour to convince them he shares their concerns. He is just good at doing it in an entertaining way. I don't see anything about this guy that makes one thing that:

a) He operates based on reason
b) He has any core principles whatsoever except to increase his personal fame
c) He could actually get anything done at all in DC.

I don't even trust his so called business acumen. It's not clear how he has actually had "success" (or how much of it he has had) or whether he mostly got the successes he got through political pull (or outright buying off the local politicians).

What is it about Trump that makes you think he tells the truth as he sees it? He tells people what he thinks they want to hear. Just emphatically.

Frankly I don't even trust him as a business man. I'm not convinced he's as successful as he would have us believe. Or that most of what success he has had wasn't achieved through political pull (deal making).