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Welcome to Hell, Pope Francis

Posted by straightlinelogic 9 years, 9 months ago to Philosophy
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Liberty, voluntary exchange, mutual consent, and the protection of property and contract rights secure individuals’ sovereignty over their own minds, bodies, and souls, the freedom to pursue their own interests. That is the real crux of the animus directed at capitalism—liberty’s economics—from proponents of both statism and religion. The Pope will never say that his condemnation of capitalism is a condemnation of individual autonomy, nor that it is an embrace of statist collectivism and coercion. Those, however, are the choices. Unfortunately, history has never moved in a straight line forward. A general embrace of his ideology would be a giant step backward. Justice requires accountability for one’s ideas, and Pope Francis is not being held to account. His vision is not the road to salvation, any more than Lenin’s, Stalin’s, Hitler’s, or Mao’s were. It is the road to a not-at-all-subtle dictatorship that will “condemn and enslave men and women.” The Pope would see us in a collectivized hell on earth—a new Dark Ages—and the Catholic Church once again reigning supreme over the misery.

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  • Posted by $ Tap2Golf 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, remember after the white smoke rose from the Vatican and Francis became Pope, the "Pope analysts" were commenting that Francis would be an "interim" Pope because of his age....couldn't do much harm, etc. He is proving to be a little more feisty than anticipated, ya think?
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  • Posted by krevello 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's a very apt comparison. I've always liked the federalism of the Catholic Church. Like federalism in government, it should benefit people locally. However, much like federalism in government, it's also corrupt and gone off the rails because, as you say, they've become the higher power.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In order to do what you describe, the church would have to give up some power. It's not about to do that. The hierarchy of the religion within the confines of the Vatican can be compared very closely to the shenanigans that go on within the beltway of Washington D.C. Where the Vatican is a bit more honest, is that it doesn't even pretend to be in a position to do the bidding of its followers. They claim to answer to a higher power which looks suspiciously like themselves.
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    Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago
    As StraightLine points out so aptly, the Pope is the absolute ruler and final arbiter of everything Catholic and as such is no different from any dictator, except for the veneer of benevolence. Although, when the control of nations was in the hands of the religion, it could not in any way be considered benevolent. How many times we must learn that when power is centralized, it cannot help but become corrupt? I guess that in that area, humanity is a slow learner.
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  • Posted by krevello 9 years, 9 months ago
    As a nominal Catholic, I've never been able to understand how the Church doesn't connect Jesus' one man crusade against the powers of corruption, evil and dishonesty to individualism. It's the story of individual will and vision against collectivism. Social justice is anathema to that message.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 9 months ago
    Excellent.

    He has no chance at appealing to the educated, affluent populations to support his fairy tales and dogma. That population is leaving him behind, slowly.

    To maintain power (this institution's sole purpose since its beginning), they must find new sheep to be led through life.
    There are many poor and poorly educated.
    People are most easily made comrades by assigning blame to a common foe.
    There is a socialist movement throughout the world, which provides a handhold to the first and second world countries.
    Capitalism is uncontrolled by the church, therefore it is a threat.

    It is all about power, and I don't see the church handing out it's billions to the masses to free them.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You're not alone. Other Christians have been drawn into the Gulch. Even one with dino breath.
    The pope's recent poop about the Bible and the Koran plus (the forgiving) God and (the okay with raping and murdering) Allah all being pretty much the same thing gave me the willies.
    I'm also an ex-Catholic, who, while reading the article, wondered if the Pope may sizzle or even melt if sprinkled by holy water.
    Perhaps he should be thus watered down while encircled by renegade priests all raised by capitalist families.
    His last words could be, "Et tu, Padre Brute?"
    Or maybe "Of course, you'd here too, (not "Father" but) Daddy Warbucks!"
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 9 months ago
    I actually had respect for John Paul. This guy is just evidence that the Catholic church has been taken over by socialists.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not unless you're a Catholic. He certainly doesn't represent me - I speak for myself.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 9 months ago
    "Welcome to hell" is right.

    I'm unusual in this gathering. I follow Christianity--but not the Roman Catholic faith. The two are very different. (And for me the flowering of the Roman Catholic faith will always be the Papacy of Alexander VI.)

    I also suspect Francis, by conflating the Bible with the Koran, has betrayed an even darker purpose.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 9 months ago
    Ah...yes. The Church. Nice. I'll listen to him when every baby raper who works for him is hanging from a tree. Not until then.

    God understands, I'm sure.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 9 months ago
    But, but--he's God's representative on Earth, isn't he.
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