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Posted by khalling 11 years, 10 months ago to Technology
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  • Posted by $ WillH 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Most self defense situations are by the rule of threes. Three shots in three seconds from three feet. It is not always that way though.

    An example is a person deciding to intervene because another person's life is in danger. In that case you way well shoot from a lot further than a few feet.
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  • Posted by $ WillH 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, that is why guns were invented, but that is not what you said. You said a bullet has no other purpose than to kill. That is not a true statement.

    The purpose of putting holes in paper targets can vary. Both my daughters love shooting. Their purpose is fun. My purposes in weekly firearms use is training, but also fun.

    Plastic rounds were commonly used by east Germans to practice marksmanship. People now days use low recoil plastic rounds to enable children to shoot firearms they otherwise would not be able to due to the recoil.

    I am not saying guns are not primarily built for ending some form of life or another, but far more often they kill more paper than people.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not sure that the first paragraph really applies for a self-defense handgun. If they are far enough away that that would matter, then run away.
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  • Posted by $ WillH 11 years, 10 months ago
    It is an interesting round, however there are some basic problems with it. First of all is the weight. Different bullet weights within the same caliber have different trajectories. This is why no one should ever practice with say 115 grain FMJ in 9mm then turn around and carry 147 grain self defense rounds. They two will have different flight paths. You will not be able to find practice ammo the same weight of this defensive round, unless you hand load 9mm Makarov into 9mm Luger cases.

    The government should not have anything to say about this on a federal level as the rules are clear. This round contains no explosive in it at all, so there is no reason to ban it. That will not stop the socialist states from banning it similar to the black talon bullet, but it should be no issue on the federal level.

    For me it breaks down to the fact that this is an interesting round, but it is new. I would not trust my life or my family's lives to it without more testing time and independent data.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 10 months ago
    Personally, reminds me a lot of the Glaser. I'll stick with my hollow points.
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  • Posted by $ WillH 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wadcutters are specially designed for target shooting. There are many specialty bullets out there for many different purposes other than killing anything. There are also bullets made of plastic for training, bullets made out of glue sticks for indoor target practice, the list goes on and on.
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  • Posted by mminnick 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I missed that line some how. mia culpa.
    I normally don't try to tell people what to do or how to do what they are doing. I have a thing about ons shot one kill ammo. I have three cousins on the Atlant PD, 1 a deputy sheriff in Idaho and many many friends in Afghanistan. I worry too much probably.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Directly from the article:

    “ "The R.I.P. will not defeat level 3A body armor, that was one of our main goals when designing this bullet,” Brown said."

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  • Posted by mminnick 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with wanting a one shot kill in that situation, but there are other rounds that will do the job. You don't need one that penetrats body armor and concrete blocks.
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