That's What They Feed Our Children?

Posted by deleted 12 years, 7 months ago to Books
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So, with the new Oz movie out and my colleagues constantly asking me about it, I decided that I should read the Oz series by Baum. At the moment I am halfway through the second book (The Marvelous Land of Oz) and two things are obvious: it is definitely a children's book and it is almost as far from Objectivism as possible. It attempts to show Collectivism as something beautiful and completely throw productivity and money out of the metaphorical window. It brings in the metaphysical aspect of witches and such. Then, Dorothy, the main character, stops by multiple strangers' homes, invites herself in, eats their food, and leaves nothing in return but plates that need to be washed and beds to be made. I know these were written in the 1900's, but the fact that our modern day culture wishes to instill this mindset into our children upsets me. What are your opinions on this? I'm not saying ban them...for that seems a little drastic and hipocratic, for I would not enjoy it if the novels I loved were banned. I'm just curious as to your stands on what we allow our children, the fate of the next generation of man, to learn.


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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If that "No" business get's told me I will have a few choice words about what they can do with their damaging feel good bullshit and socialist entitlement indoctrination tactics and turn and leave. I will also say that they cannot blame who ever is telling them to do this...they can only blame themselves for DOING it. How that fact always gets sugar coated so they can swallow it easier is a stumper.
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  • Posted by $ kathywiso 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just say, NO NO NO NO NO !!!! Red pens are banned to grade papers, what the heck is wrong with these people. Not supposed to see that they made a mistake?? I agree with privatization of schools. If parents could keep the school tax money they spend to educate their children and chose the teaching they should get, our country would be much better off in the future. Unfortunately, the government has different ideas and indoctrination to contaminate our future.
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  • Posted by UncommonSense 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Mayorsky Bloomberg is a tyrant: the end state of Communism; which is, in turn, the state that comes after Socialism.
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  • Posted by 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly my point! America is turning socialist! Just look at Mayor Bloomberg of New York City and his regulation of soft drinks. The sickening thing is that America actually wants it. If they want to be socialist, they should go to a socialist country. Just leave America to the Objectivists like it was meant to be.
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm trying to think of another word as effective as no. Stop? I think now there will be all sorts of phrases-many words-to replace one word.
    Stop and Go are words I use often with children. also please and thank you. that's probably the next words they'll ban.
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 7 months ago
    Here is an interesting srticle on point:
    http://www.independent.org/publications/...
    I did read the series to my children and found details such as Dorothy going into people's homes and eating leaving dirty dishes funny/outrageous. that was part of the humor to us. But when I was in collegein the 80s I was in a polish play version of Wizard of Oz. All the characters said things and did things that were a way of getting back at the communist rule (it was written in the 50s). I was amazed how the story was basically the same, but the polish audience "got" it.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 12 years, 7 months ago
    I don't believe in banning books. Even the ones I don't like. 'Fahrenheit 451' is always right in the back of my mind. Parents have an opportunity to discuss books and ideas with their kids. I don't know if anyone does, but I remember discussing things with my parents. We discussed. They didn't force their opinion or slam mine even if they didn't agree.

    I had the opportunity a few weeks ago while wearing my WIJG T-shirt to introduce a young lady to AS. She immediately downloaded it to her Kindle. I saw her yesterday. She has been taking her finals in college and hasn't had time to start reading yet. I asked what she was majoring in and it Early Childhood K-6. She's going to be a teacher. I said "I hope you aren't going to be an indoctrinator". She said "What's an indoctrinator". I gave her the examples of the 5th grader writing about giving up his Constitutional rights for safety and the girl being told that Republicans were evil. She was horrified that teachers were doing that and she said that wouldn't be her. I have hopes that she'll keep that in mind as she reads AS. I think I'll recommend 'We the Living' to her as well.
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  • Posted by A_Hook12 12 years, 7 months ago
    I have not yet to read the series, but it is not unusual to see messages about collectivism in stories for children. I don't have a problem with it. Ideas should be shared and parents can start teaching their children some simple critical thinking skills about what they see and read. It would also be easy to point out how rude a charter is and express disapproval at the rude behavior. It is amazing how many teenagers I work with that cannot answer the question what is the moral or point of the story. They need to be taught how to find the authors opinion and how to develop an opinion of there own. Perhaps if they had an adult read with them to ask questions as children they would have the skills and teens and young adults.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 7 months ago
    They are feeding our kids lots of collective crap. I just heard today from a Mom who has her tiny ones in preschool that starting next year they can no longer say the word "no" to the children. (Can you believe that?? My opinion, from working with kids, is that they are not told "no" often enough and it shows.) Also, during another conversation, I found out that grading school papers with a red pen is no longer allowed because it's too harsh. A red pen!!? The list of socialist indoctrination tactics in schools grows more and more every year. People complain about things...say it's ridiculous, agree it's stupid, but do NOTHING to stop it. They don't think these "little things" are worth the hassle of fighting over and they're afraid that THEY will look foolish for making an issue out of it. (They've also taken the "N" word out of Huckleberry Finn....taken it out of history as if never happened or something!) Personally I think every single thing, even if it seems miniscule should be protested vigorously. Better yet... schools should be privatized and the Government should be dismantled and rebuilt according to the Constitution.
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