Obama Tyranny, True or False?

Posted by JoleneMartens1982 10 years, 11 months ago to Politics
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A friend and I were discussing our current President yesterday and he is of the mindset that there will be no 2016 presidential election. He believes that "Obutthead", he has affectionately termed, will completely overthrow our government, take this country and become its dictator, openly. I disagreed stating that he is just a puppet for the money, running it as they wish, and they would replace him with another puppet after his term. But I did mention that if he did I wouldn't be surprised either. Any thoughts?


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  • Posted by SaltyDog 10 years, 11 months ago
    I don't think that's his plan. Not that he wouldn't like to be crowned president for life, but he's smart enough to realize that we've jumped out of the plane and left the parachute at home. It's a race to the finish for his ego...he doesn't want people pointing at him saying that he did it...he wants to be the elder statesman who says, "This never would have happened on MY watch!" When the wheels finally leave the tracks.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 11 months ago
    I think that BHO would become the USA dictator if he could. I think he sees himself as another Chavez. He's not quite there yet, so I don't think it will happen in '16. That is, however, the ultimate aim of the lefties because they see it as the only was to accomplish their goals. They'll call it a "benevolent" dictatorship at first, but I suspect it will become less and less benevolent as time passes.
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  • Posted by Randja57 10 years, 11 months ago
    the truth of the whole matter fellas is that it no longer matter who the potus is . the candidates will be hillary and jeb . that way it matter not who wins they are both socialist a holes... as a nation of free men we are done. THERE IS ONLY ONE COURSE THAT COULD RESTORE AMERICA AND IT INVOLVES BLOOD AND SACRIFICE
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    • Posted by XenokRoy 10 years, 11 months ago
      If it does turn out to be a Hillary and Jeb fight I would say the rest of your statement is then true.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 11 months ago
        I'll not vote for such set-up privileged royalty. I will vote out of my personal sense of duty but I do have the option of voting for a third party or even Donald Duck. I can also vote for Hiss (excuse that actual typo dino eruption) His Excellency Me.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 11 months ago
    I continue to believe that Obama does intend such a takeover, but he is running out of time in which to do it. What he needs is a "Reichstag fire", some event which (in the minds of gullible TV viewers) would justify his imposing martial law. A violent response by armed civilians to law enforcement actions such as those in Ferguson, Baltimore, or at the Bundy Ranch would have given him that incident. Since that didn't happen, he will continue to try to provoke one by encouraging similar outrages until the day he leaves office.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 11 months ago
    Is Obama a tyrant? A resounding YES. Is there the potential that he could exploit or even foment instability in the general populace to initiate a military-style takeover under martial law? I don't see why not other than many of the people I know in the military would reject any kind of attempt at this. I think he could subject many of the more liberal states, but he would in reality start another civil war if he did.
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  • Posted by NealS 10 years, 11 months ago
    No, it can't happen. There are too many of us that won't let that happen. If you thing there are crazies out there in this country, just go ahead and make an official proposal that the US is going to do this.

    But then again, I just heard a part of a story on some idiot wanting to tax each firearm $25 and each and every round of ammo another 5 cents. Are you kidding me? It's got something to do with preventing crime? Oh well, it's probably some liberal moron perhaps in New York or Chicago coming up with that scheme.

    Oh shit (please excuse the expression) it's closer to home that I expected, it's in Seattle. http://www.king5.com/story/news/local... Thank goodness I live on the other side of Lake Washington, on the Eastside, our nut jobs aren't as bad as the nut jobs on the other side of the lake, or are they? What if this spreads to New York, Chicago, or perhaps Philadelphia, or Houston? Get out of my life, leave me alone. How about another new automobile tax to prevent automobile accidents. That would "save" more people than a stupid gun and ammo tax. I wonder what the penalty will be if you shoot someone with a round that the tax wasn't paid on?
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  • Posted by NealS 10 years, 11 months ago
    Well I said it can't happen, there are too many of us that just won't let it. But then again, I heard only part of a story on the radio this morning about someone's plan to tax every gun $25, and each round of ammo another 5 cents. I hope I get to hear the rest of that story someday. It had something to do with "reducing crime". Maybe it's not here, maybe it is.......doesn't matter to me, I'm old enough I don't care what they do to me, maybe I'll just become a martyr.

    Oh shit (please excuse the expression), it's in Seattle. http://www.king5.com/story/news/local... Thank God I don't live in Seattle. I wonder if this insanity could spread across the lake to the Eastside, or perhaps even to New York or Texas?
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  • Posted by term2 10 years, 11 months ago
    Obama would want that, but he cant have it. Even our military with the NSA behind it could overpower all the guns in the hands of the citizens. I wouldnt want to be a soldier walking down the street if they were supporting a dictatorship overthrow. We would have a REAL revolution if they tried that, and it would be the citizens against the government forces. THIS is the real reason for the second amendment- to protect US against our government.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 11 months ago
    If that was ever this President's plan, I think South Carolina's reaction to the Charleston church shootings put the damper on it. By showing forgiveness, tolerance, and repulsion toward the racist aims of the shooter, all involved made it clear that a race war would be hard to start. Any other excuse would require obvious government heavy-handed instigation, so the chance of widespread martial law and canceling elections is very unlikely.
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  • Posted by Animal 10 years, 11 months ago
    Oh, for crying out loud. People said the same paranoid things about Clinton, and lefties said it about Bush. There will be an election in 2016 as usual, and Obama will leave office in January 2017 as usual. That's all. End of story.

    I already have one outstanding bet on this, for 500 rounds of .30-30 vs. 500 rounds of .45ACP. I'm open to more.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 11 months ago
      Yes but Obama has a whole new playing field and Bush was a left winger. Sure they said it but has anyone here to fore been in a practiced position to simply refuse to abdicate? I believe the Wicked Witch of the West and her help meet Jeb are counting the crown jewels before the carats are ripe for the plucking. (LMAO as the winner of the 45 Olympics Mixed Metaphor Event. Just cause your paranoid doesn't mean LBJ isn't watching you.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 10 months ago
    Hello JoleneMartens1982,
    I don't think he can pull it off. There are too many tyrants in the wings ready to pull the strings of the next puppet. It is to their benefit to keep the charade of a government for and by the people going. If by some chance we get an honest person of integrity that truly respects our Constitution and founding principles in the White House in the next election he or she better wear bullet proof underwear.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 10 years, 11 months ago
    There would be hell to pay if this presidential creature tried that crap. I think those in control; (money is only a medium of exchange) would try a new puppet...I agree with you in that extent. I am concerned with the big picture here; 1) we have more than a consensus, 2) Can we as a people come together and overwhelmingly over power the cheating that is prevalent in the NWO Kakistocracys' attempts to take over the world. I ask only because I see many rifts in the plans of mice but not of men and by nature, would at least Hope for the best...but not blindly so.
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  • Posted by InfamousEric 10 years, 11 months ago
    In any compromise between freedom & tyranny, it is only tyranny that advances, however light that “tyranny” may be considered to be at the moment.
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  • Posted by RonC 10 years, 11 months ago
    There is something I have to learn from the group. My personal philosophy is and incentive based model of human nature. For me it works well to predict people's actions, governmental actions, even picking stocks that fall into the consumer cycle. What I don't understand about the uber rich or Bilderberg's or whoever "they are" that pull the strings is why?

    the rich, want to be richer. I make that assumption because of where they are and the life momentum that got them there. What is the incentive for them to rule over a world full of needy non productive people? It seems to me a productive population would produce more of what the wealthy are motivated by.

    I understand there may be a group of folks that yearn for power. The trouble with that assumption is where is the world wide group that yearns to be ruled over by a tyrant(s)? Each city, state, local, and federal government in the world would have to surrender their sovereignty to the rulers of the 1 world order. I can't see that happening. The former USSR came as close to 1 world government as anyone and ultimately found our that the Slavs and Ukrainians preferred to be independent. Even Putin's recent moves don't change the sentiment on the ground. In America we can't even agree on which states should have medical pot, let alone all of us sign up to be ruled over by some UN envoy.

    So, if there is no election and I don't get to see President Rand Paul appoint Judge Anthony Napoletano to the Supreme court, what indication is there that all of USA's sheople will follow along? The government would need two troopers (or more) at every door to sustain a Nationwide Marshall law. They can't do that. It seems more likely the dense coastal areas would long for the government largess, and the fly over state may revolt. Educate me please. what am I missing in this urban legend of one world order?
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 11 months ago
    It is not Obama we have to worry about. It's government in all of its forms and those of our neighbors, friends, and even family that make themselves a part of that government overclass. Are we worse off than we were before Obama was elected, yes-- but we were also worse off after Bush was elected, and Clinton, and Bush 1, and those before them.

    Obama is simply the spokesman (talking head) for those that truly run the government and make all of the important decisions, those that hide in the shadows behind their elected and appointed political figureheads. As long as we sanction the millions of individual Americans that make up our government and what they do to us, we can expect no significant change, except probably worse offense against us.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 11 months ago
    BHO is a puppet of big bucks and they desperately want Hillary to
    succeed him so that we don't need a fascist takeover, IMHO.
    there would probably be a host of armed bikers and the like
    who would descent on D.C. if martial law were attempted. -- j
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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 11 months ago
    I don't expect him to be dictator. The powers that be probably want to maintain the image of free and fair elections and that the people actually decide who the President is.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 11 months ago
    I think JoleneMartens is correct. It is crucial to not break the image. The pattern that I see is an increasing doublethink that changes, for example, 'rights' to mean 'endowments'. If the facade were to be destroyed, there would be too great a chance of a major outcry and a possible reaction that would undo all of the gains that socialism has made.

    The only way that the image of the US could be maintained to its own citizens, and the POTUS remain longer in place than his proper term, would be if a series of 9/11 type incidents happened right at election time. Even then, I think it would just reset the elections a few months into the future - which makes that scenario one that would not be worth artificially generating.

    Jan
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  • Posted by wiggys 10 years, 11 months ago
    there were people who thought that slickwilly would try the same thing.
    he will go by the wayside be remembered as he was the worst one we have ever had but because of all the moneys he has accumulated will be content playing golf. and he will not be on the speaking roles except maybe in kenya.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 years, 11 months ago
    I don't think so. He sucks, but he is not ready for that, and the military will not support him.
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    • Posted by $ TomB666 10 years, 11 months ago
      If only the military would not support him. I would not bet on that - 4 Stars got those stars by kissing his butt.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 years, 11 months ago
        Officers promotions are an act of congress not an executive power. Not there with you.
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        • Posted by $ TomB666 10 years, 10 months ago
          Who do you think makes the recommendations? In the 50 + years I've been affiliated with the military, I have learned the for the most part congress rubber stamps the administration's proposed promotion list. Yes it could refuse someone a promotion, but I've never even heard of that happening. The administration gets its 'suggested' promotion list from the military itself via recommendation boards - a system that works reasonably well for ranks below the flag ranks. While there are still recommendation boards for flag rank officers, politics plays a much greater part. While General Daniel "Chappie" James is a personal hero to me, and one of the finest officers ever to hold the 4 star rank (IMO), he was not selected for Brigadier General until the USAF decided it wanted a black General to command the AFB in Lybia to deal with Muammar Gaddafi. (this is according to his biography.) My point is that for good or bad, promotions at that level are driven by politics. There can be 20 four star officers equally qualified to be the next Chief of Staff and the job will go to the officer the Commander in Chief likes the best. And having the job of Chief of Staff is rarely (never in my memory) a promotion as that job is filled from among those already holding the four star rank.
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          • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 years, 10 months ago
            Mike Mullen was the Bush/Obama transitional Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and was CNO (O10) prior. Next Chairman will likely going to be the present CNO as well. Both four stars before Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. I suspect there are others. Is that what you mean about being an O10 before being appointed.

            Adm Rickover is a great example of a four star promoted and protected by Congress, not driven the executive branch. Only when that protection waned and SecDef/SecNav disagree with Rickover, did Reagan decide it was time for a change.

            Besides, It will take a whole lot more than 20 four stars to get the US military to back Obama against the Constitution and a majority of the US people (who I assert will not support him staying in office).
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            • Posted by $ TomB666 10 years, 10 months ago
              Exactly - and Rickover is a good example of an exception. I agree also about the US military backing the Constitution.

              At every reenlistment or Officer Promotion the Oath of Office is recited again, and in it we all swear to "Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic." Before I administered the oath at a recent officer promotion I made the not to subtle point about it being hard to tell exactly who those domestic enemies might be.
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              • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 years, 10 months ago
                I actually hope Obama does try to remain in power. I think the US reaction would be so negative, no progressive would survive the backlash. Elizabeth Warren and Hillary would be done, and ObamaCare would be overhauled.
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  • Posted by Zero 10 years, 11 months ago
    As the federal debt is my personal "panic button", I hate the man more than most.
    But no.
    No.

    ---
    Actually I think I hold conspiracy theorists in even lower regard than BO in terms of intelligence.

    Sorry but non-falsifiable logic isn't logic at all. And the haughty air of insight and intellect they exude, while in-fact being notably deficient, really puts me off.

    No offense to any present - of course. (He say's waaaay too late!)
    Ha!
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 10 years, 11 months ago
    I agree with you....he is a puppet. Even if he wasn't, we are not quite far enough down the path yet for a guy like him to take over. He is also incredibly incompetent.....look how many Democrats lost seats in the last 2 elections! [lets not eve talk about the disasters on the international scene.] They...the Democrats.. cant possibly want any more of him.
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